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Michael Bungay Stanier

Discover the best bits of the best books read by people you admire. Michael Bungay Stanier hosts the podcast where brilliant people... more

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195. Seeking the Story Behind the Story: Lauren Crux [reads] ‘The Book’

Who holds up a mirror to you? We're all on our journeys forward, trying to figure things out and understand... more

18 Jun 2024 · 43 minutes
194. From the Vault: The Light and the Dark of a Hungry Heart: W. David Ball [reads] ‘Ulysses’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant W. David Ball. Get book links and... more

04 Jun 2024 · 48 minutes
193. How to be Radically Generous: Vicki Saunders [reads] "Astonishing the Gods" by Ben Okri

Vicki is the “Founding Activator” of Coralus, a venture capital company with a unique approach to reimagining the world of... more

21 May 2024 · 39 minutes
192. Learn Faster, Learn Better: Scott Young, Author of “Get Better at Anything” [reads] "The Principles of Teaching Based on Psychology" by Edward Thorndike

Scott is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author, a podcast host, computer programmer, and an avid reader. He’s also an... more

07 May 2024 · 47 minutes
191. Obsessed (in a good way): Kaya Thomas [reads] “Positive Obsession” by Octavia Butler

Kaya Thomas is an app builder and creator of the We Read Too app, a mobile directory of children and... more

23 Apr 2024 · 37 minutes
190. How Empathy Calms Anxiety: Marc Brackett, author of “Permission to Feel,” [reads] “7 ½ Lessons about the Brain”

Mark Brackett is a psychologist and professor at Yale University, known for his groundbreaking work in emotional intelligence and the... more

09 Apr 2024 · 41 minutes
189. Beware Your Shadow Career: Jay Papasan, author of “The One Thing,” [reads] “Turning Pro”

Jay Papasan is the best-selling author of The One Thing, which has sold over 3 million copies and appeared on... more

26 Mar 2024 · 56 minutes
188. Frailty, Strength, and Leadership: Amy Elizabeth Fox, CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, [reads] ‘Attuned’

Amy Elizabeth Fox is a transformative figure in the realm of leadership development and personal growth. As the co-founder and... more

12 Mar 2024 · 45 minutes
187. The Hardest & Best Creative Question: Austin Kleon, author of Steal Like An Artist [reads] ‘What It Is’

It's not just our tech-enabled world that runs by algorithm. We meat machines, we humans, we one and all have... more

27 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
186. New Year, New News, New Cow: MBS [reads] Purple Cow by Seth Godin

With the new year, we’re doing something new with 2 Pages with MBS. Twice a month, you can listen in... more

23 Jan 2024 · 9 minutes
185. The Power of Dreams and Authentic Leadership: Modupe Akinola [reads] Genesis, Chapter 37, of the Bible

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Do you have a posse of people with whom you create “good trouble?”... more

09 Jan 2024 · 45 minutes
184. Better Life Vault: Who do you serve?: Dave Stachowiak [reads] ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the... more

02 Jan 2024 · 50 minutes
183. Better Life Vault: How to be *Really* Happy: Stephanie Harrison [reads] ‘The Way of the Bodhisattva’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Stephanie Harrison. Recommend this show by sharing... more

26 Dec 2023 · 44 minutes
182. Better Life Vault: Getting Better at Falling Apart: Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe, author of ‘Calm Within the Storm’ [reads] ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe. Recommend this show by... more

19 Dec 2023 · 40 minutes
181. How to be An (Effective) Hedonist: Charlie Bresler [reads] ‘The Life You Can Save’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages One of my favorite songs is Hole In The Bucket by Spearhead, the... more

12 Dec 2023 · 47 minutes
180. Realizing Your Potential: Jonathan Brill [reads] ‘The Medium Is the Massage’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I remember being in New Orleans some years ago where people were offering... more

05 Dec 2023 · 43 minutes
179. Influence + Failure = Originality: Geoff Dyer [reads] ‘The Country and the City’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Are you living for 70 years, or are you living the same year... more

28 Nov 2023 · 44 minutes
178. Imagine Winning: Rob Hopkins [reads] ‘We Do This ‘Til We Free Us’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages So how are politics going in your country? ... No, no, don't tell... more

21 Nov 2023 · 44 minutes
177. How to be a Bigger Person: Tiziana Casciaro [reads] ‘The Heart is Noble’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages ‘The map is not the territory.’ This is one of those obvious yet profound... more

14 Nov 2023 · 58 minutes
176. What Beckons to You? Olatunde Sobomehin [reads] ‘The Life We’re Looking For’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What was your first dream that felt big? The first time you set... more

07 Nov 2023 · 40 minutes
175. Strength in Fragile Times: Susan Collett [reads] ‘The Creative Habit’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I did a beginner’s class in ceramics earlier this year, and it was... more

31 Oct 2023 · 41 minutes
174. The Art of Disruption: Stefan Bucher, author of ‘344 Questions,’ [reads] ‘The Salmon of Doubt’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I often get asked how I sold more than a million copies of... more

24 Oct 2023 · 42 minutes
173. What Reconciliation Means: Bob Joseph, author of ‘21 Things You May Not Know About The Indian Act,’ [reads] ‘BE DiFFERENT or be dead’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages As I’m recording this, I’m currently in Australia where we’re about two weeks... more

17 Oct 2023 · 55 minutes
172. How to Notice Magic: Miranda Keeling [reads] ‘Mr. Rabbit and the Lovely Present’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages The very first hotel that I got quarantined into, I looked out over... more

10 Oct 2023 · 42 minutes
171. How to Rewild the Future: Tom Fletcher, author of ‘The Ambassador,’ [reads] ‘The Ministry for the Future’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What does it take to be an ambassador, to be a diplomat? …If... more

05 Oct 2023 · 42 minutes
170. How to be a Light in the Darkness: Sarah Lewis, author of ‘The Rise,’ [reads] ‘The Artist’s Struggle for Integrity’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages My great grandparents feel fictional to me. Sure, I’ve seen pictures and I... more

26 Sep 2023 · 46 minutes
169. How to Keep Going When It's Hard: Tony Stubblebine [reads] 'Once A Runner'

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages The idea at the heart of my book, How to Begin, is that... more

19 Sep 2023 · 57 minutes
168. Hearing the Whisper of Your Emotions: Hilary Jacobs Hendel, Author of ‘It’s Not Always Depression,’ [reads] ‘The Transforming Power of Affect: A Model for Accelerated Change’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages In today's fast-paced world, change is the only constant. Yet, how do we... more

12 Sep 2023 · 45 minutes
167. How to Both 'Be' and 'Do': Suneel Gupta, Author of ‘Everyday Dharma’ [reads] ‘The Alchemy of Opposites’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Tolstoy famously started his novel Anna Karenina, “All happy families are alike; every... more

05 Sep 2023 · 33 minutes
166. From the Vault: The Art of a Tender Conversation: Kathryn Mannix, author of ‘With the End in Mind,’ [reads] ‘Gratitude’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Kathryn Mannix. Recommend this show by sharing... more

29 Aug 2023 · 49 minutes
165. From the Vault: What’s at the heart of being human? Brian Christian [reads] ‘Godel, Escher, Bach’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Brian Christian. Recommend this show by sharing... more

22 Aug 2023 · 50 minutes
164. From the Vault: The Doorway to Shared Meaning: Haesun Moon, author of ‘Coaching: A to Z,’ [reads] ‘On Dialogue’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Haesun Moon. Recommend this show by sharing... more

15 Aug 2023 · 43 minutes
163. From the Vault: How to be Alive: Madeleine Dore, Author of ‘I Didn’t Do the Thing Today’ [reads] ‘Encyclopedia of an Ordinary Life’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Madeleine Dore.  Recommend this show by sharing... more

08 Aug 2023 · 36 minutes
162. From the Vault: How to More Deeply Understand Your World: Caroline Webb, Author of ‘How to Have a Good Day,’ [reads] ‘How Emotions Are Made’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Caroline Webb. Recommend this show by sharing... more

01 Aug 2023 · 39 minutes
161. Art’s Real Superpower: Stuart Semple [reads] ‘Just Kids’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages The previous guest on this podcast was W. Dave Ball, a fellow Rhodes... more

25 Jul 2023 · 39 minutes
160. The Light and the Dark of a Hungry Heart: W. David Ball [reads] ‘Ulysses’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Where do you find your people? I think I’m still looking for mine,... more

18 Jul 2023 · 48 minutes
159. How to Make a Fresh Start: Emily Balcetis, Author of ‘Clearer, Closer, Better’ [reads] ‘How to Change’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I remember reading that one of the ways to become luckier is to... more

11 Jul 2023 · 41 minutes
158. We Begin Again?: Michael Bungay Stanier [reads] ‘Reset as Needed’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages For the final episode, I chose a chapter that’s about resetting a relationship... more

04 Jul 2023 · 12 minutes
157. Seeing Yourself Through Another’s Eyes: Michael Bungay Stanier [reads] ‘How to Amplify What’s Good’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages As it’s book launch day, I picked one of the deep-dive chapters titled... more

27 Jun 2023 · 11 minutes
156. The Wisdom in The Wound: Michael Bungay Stanier [reads] ‘The ‘Bad Date’ Question’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages My new book is on the near, near horizon. It’s called How to... more

20 Jun 2023 · 11 minutes
155. Safe, Vital, and Repairable: Michael Bungay Stanier [reads] ‘The Best Possible Relationship’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages My new book is on the near, near horizon. It’s called How to... more

13 Jun 2023 · 22 minutes
154. A Hunger to Learn: Ryan Hawk, Author of ‘Welcome to Management’ and ‘The Pursuit of Excellence’ [reads] ‘The Wright Brothers’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages How do you navigate the big decisions in your life? There’s a maxim... more

06 Jun 2023 · 51 minutes
Brandi Stanley reading from Andreas Weber’s Matter and Desire, and discussing her journey of spirituality, self-discovery, acceptance, and aliveness.

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Once, long ago, I chatted with Brené Brown about the possibility of writing... more

30 May 2023 · 42 minutes
152. What If You Were Living a False Life?: Hal Gregersen, Author of ‘The Innovator’s DNA’ and ‘Questions Are the Answers’ [reads] ‘Let Your Life Speak’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m working on building community at the moment, and I’ve noticed I have... more

23 May 2023 · 47 minutes
151. How to Make Up the Rules: Ash Ambirge [reads] ‘Tell Them Who I Am’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages A little over 6 weeks are left until my new book, How To... more

16 May 2023 · 46 minutes
150. Exploring Illusion and Ambition: Vinh Giang [reads] ‘The Almanack Of Naval Ravikant’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m the most amateur of magicians. I have about ten tricks, all of... more

09 May 2023 · 35 minutes
149. From the Vault: How to Surrender to Your Heart: Thibault Manekin, author of ‘Larger than Yourself’ [reads] ‘The Alchemist’

Today, we're pulling one of our best episodes from the vaults, featuring the brilliant Thibault Manekin. Recommend this show by sharing... more

02 May 2023 · 45 minutes
148. Know Your Neighbours, Know Yourself: Zita Cobb [reads] ‘The Third Pillar’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages For one of Marcella’s significant birthdays, we went to the Fogo Island Inn,... more

25 Apr 2023 · 47 minutes
147. The Power of Subtraction: Leidy Klotz, author of ‘Subtract’, [reads] ‘Soccer in Sun and Shadow’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Way, way back, when it was raining too hard to go out and... more

18 Apr 2023 · 38 minutes
146. How to Claim Your Genius: Ozan Varol, author of ‘Awaken Your Genius,’ [reads] ‘Big Magic’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages   The smell of wood smoke, particularly burning eucalyptus wood as I’m sitting around... more

11 Apr 2023 · 46 minutes
145. Winning Trophies vs Being Seen: Laura Gassner Otting, author of ‘Wonderhell,’ [reads] ‘Stones from the River’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Growing up, there were a couple of my dad’s high school track trophies... more

04 Apr 2023 · 58 minutes
144. Success, Failure & Design: Debbie Millman, author of ‘Why Design Matters,’ [reads] ‘Consider the Lobster’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages One of the most powerful lessons I learnt was from the author Peter... more

28 Mar 2023 · 47 minutes
143. How You Are You: Anil Seth, author of ‘Being You,’ [reads] ‘Consciousness Explained’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I read recently that there’s a drop in the number of people going... more

21 Mar 2023 · 44 minutes
142. How Loss Can Lead to Love: Laurel Braitman, author of ‘What Looks Like Bravery,’ [reads] ‘When Breath Becomes Air’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’ve been very lucky to work with some of the TED Fellows, a... more

14 Mar 2023 · 50 minutes
141. How You Get Good at Something: McKinley Valentine [reads] ‘The Expectation Effect’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I had a lucky break when I started working. Having lingered in university... more

07 Mar 2023 · 45 minutes
140. How to Practice: Neil Heyde [reads] ‘The Craftsman’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages It’s 1985, I’m 17, in my final year of high school, and I’m... more

28 Feb 2023 · 43 minutes
139. How to Survive Disaster: Peter Brannen, author of ‘The Ends of the World,’ [reads] ‘Teaching a Stone to Talk’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Our inability to think long-term is encapsulated in a system we barely notice:... more

21 Feb 2023 · 33 minutes
138. How to Move from Pessimism to Optimism: Ayse Birsel, author or ‘Design the Long Life You Love,’ [reads] ‘The Creative Habit’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Who do you think of when I say, ‘designer’? My brain goes into... more

14 Feb 2023 · 39 minutes
137. When All Is Confusion: Eric Klein, author of ‘What’s In the Way?’ [reads] ‘The Bhagavad Gita’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Malcolm Gladwell famously made popular the idea of 10,000 hours of practice for... more

07 Feb 2023 · 42 minutes
136. How to More Deeply Understand Your World: Caroline Webb, Author of ‘How to Have a Good Day,’ [reads] ‘How Emotions Are Made’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages How are you labeled? How have you been labeled by others? And how... more

31 Jan 2023 · 38 minutes
135. How to Face Fear: JeVon McCormick, author of ‘Modern Leader’, [reads] ‘Think and Grow Rich’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages A question for you - who do you trust with your work? Whatever project... more

24 Jan 2023 · 52 minutes
134. How to Find Your Values: Whitney Johnson, author of ‘Disrupt Yourself’, and ‘Dare, Dream, Do’, [reads] ‘Dare, Dream, Do’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Two things I love about Whitney Johnson are her relentless drive for self-improvement,... more

17 Jan 2023 · 18 minutes
133. Give > Take: Bobby Herrera, author of ‘The Gift of Struggle,’ [reads] ‘The Wisdom Pyramid’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages When I first published The Advice Trap back in 2022, it was accompanied... more

10 Jan 2023 · 34 minutes
132. Happy Holidays from Michael

2 Pages with MBS is on holiday break until January 10th. I’m cheering you on for the rest of 2022 and... more

20 Dec 2022 · 1 minute
131. When Building is Being: Shariff Abdullah, author of ‘Practicing Wisdom,’ [reads] ‘The Timeless Way of Building’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I had two quite different experiences of a library when I was a... more

13 Dec 2022 · 48 minutes
130. The Art of a Tender Conversation: Kathryn Mannix, author of ‘With the End in Mind,’ [reads] ‘Gratitude’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What makes you uncomfortable? And, how do you hold yourself when you’re in... more

06 Dec 2022 · 48 minutes
129. How to be an Artist: Chadney Everett [reads] ‘The Dehumanization of Art’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Actor Viggo Mortenson once said: ‘To be an artist, you don't have to... more

29 Nov 2022 · 41 minutes
128. Not Wasting Time: Andri Snær Magnason, author of ‘On Time and Water’, [reads] ‘Einstein's Dreams’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages My first job out of university was with a company that specialized in... more

22 Nov 2022 · 34 minutes
127. The Ethical Revolution: Robert Chesnut, author of ‘Intentional Integrity,’ [reads] ‘Intentional Integrity’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’ve done my fair share of work in organizational development, some of which... more

15 Nov 2022 · 14 minutes
126. Where Empathy & Activism Meet: Loretta Ross, co-author of Reproductive Justice, [reads] ‘The War for Kindness’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Despite its good intentions, activism can be exhausting. Finding motivation to keep the... more

08 Nov 2022 · 33 minutes
125. Whose Heart Did You Break?: Simon Alexander Ong, author of ‘Energize’ [reads] ‘The Mountain is You’

Simon Alexander One reading from Brianna Wiest’s book The Mountain is You, and discussing resilience, self-mastery, and expanding your comfort... more

01 Nov 2022 · 36 minutes
124. A Woman’s Guide to Surviving Entrepreneurship: Nathalie Molina Niño, author of ‘Leapfrog’ [reads] ‘Leapfrog’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I am an accidental entrepreneur, and as exhilarating as it’s been, it’s also... more

25 Oct 2022 · 19 minutes
123. Why We’re All Entrepreneurs: Asheesh Advani, author of ‘Business Loans’ and ‘Investors in Your Backyard,’ [reads] ‘Loonshots’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What skills do you think an entrepreneur requires? I’ve been mulling it over... more

18 Oct 2022 · 35 minutes
122. The Doorway to Shared Meaning: Haesun Moon, author of ‘Coaching: A to Z,’ [reads] ‘On Dialogue’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m a bit of a geek about models, specifically the ones that reveal... more

11 Oct 2022 · 42 minutes
121. Wrestling with Your Monsters: Richard Winters, author of ‘You’re the Leader,’ [reads] ‘The Heart Aroused’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Atul Gawande is a top-notch surgeon, a champion for healthcare reform in the... more

04 Oct 2022 · 39 minutes
120. How to be Alive: Madeleine Dore, Author of ‘I Didn’t Do the Thing Today’ [reads] ‘Encyclopedia of an Ordinary Life’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I still remember reading my first Nicholson Baker book, The Mezzanine. This extraordinary... more

27 Sep 2022 · 34 minutes
119. Your Hero-Making Brain: Will Storr, author of ‘The Status Game’, [reads] ‘Incognito’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m working on a new book about how to strengthen working relationships, so... more

20 Sep 2022 · 35 minutes
118. Explore or Expire: Tom Wiese [reads] ‘I’m Scarred’ from ‘End Malaria’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I am a charming man. It’s an optimistic view of who I am.... more

13 Sep 2022 · 40 minutes
117. The Power of The Underdog: Bobby Herrera [reads] ‘The Gift of Struggle’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Bobby Herrera, author of The Gift of Struggle, is the co-founder and CEO... more

06 Sep 2022 · 19 minutes
116. A Beginner’s Guide to Ambiguity: Andrea Small, author of ‘Navigating Ambiguity,’ [reads] ‘The Book of Eels’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m writing a new book that’s due for release in the middle of... more

30 Aug 2022 · 44 minutes
115. Moving from Outside to Insider (and back again): Dominic Packer, Co-author of ‘The Power of Us’ [reads] ‘Experiments in Ethics’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Keep this between us, but I have an offer for you. There’s this... more

23 Aug 2022 · 36 minutes
114. Ever Find Yourself Distracted?: Nir Eyal, author of ‘Indistractable’ [reads] ‘Indistractable’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Nir Eyal is a former lecturer at the Stanford Graduate School of Business,... more

16 Aug 2022 · 15 minutes
113. Fighting For the Life You Want: Jen Louden, author of ‘Why Bother? Discover the Desire for What’s Next’, [reads] ‘Why Bother?’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages ‘Why bother’ is a question we ask ourselves at certain moments in our... more

09 Aug 2022 · 20 minutes
112. Have We Canceled Our Future?: Pascal Finette, author of ‘The Heretic, [reads] ‘Kraftwerk’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages    What does it mean to be a radical? Karl Marx had this to... more

02 Aug 2022 · 31 minutes
111. Weighing the Price of Ambition: Shellye Archambeau, Author of ‘Unapologetically Ambitious’, [reads] ‘All You Have to Do Is Ask’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What’s your relationship with ambition? I feel I’m both ambitious, and not. On... more

26 Jul 2022 · 40 minutes
110. Seeking Deep Connection: Kevin Ashton, Author of How to Fly a Horse, [reads] ‘Finding the Mother Tree’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages The book I’m writing at the moment is about relationships. I’m neither a... more

19 Jul 2022 · 47 minutes
109. (Re)Learning How to be White: Garrett Bucks [reads] ‘They Can’t Kill Us Until They Kill Us’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages One of my favorite questions is simply this: How can I help? The... more

12 Jul 2022 · 50 minutes
108. Make it Magical, Make it Meaningful: Amantha Imber, Author of Time Wise [reads] ‘The Power of Moments’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m just back from an extended visit to Australia, and as a farewell... more

05 Jul 2022 · 43 minutes
107. Making What Matters Most: Jay Acunzo [reads] ‘Kitchen Confidential’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages   If you’ve read my new book How to Begin, you'll know that I... more

28 Jun 2022 · 46 minutes
106. [Replay] The Search for Purpose: Arthur Brooks, Author of From Strength to Strength, [reads] ‘Meditations’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. Today, we're pulling one of... more

21 Jun 2022 · 45 minutes
105. What’s at the Heart of Being Human? Brian Christian [reads] ‘Godel, Escher, Bach’

One thing I don't mention often is that the thesis I wrote for my law degree was an attempt to... more

14 Jun 2022 · 49 minutes
104. How to Travel Through History: Danie Mellor [reads] ‘On Photography’

Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages A young woman stands, one hand on top of a chair, the other... more

07 Jun 2022 · 53 minutes
103. How to Surrender to Your Heart: Thibault Manekin, author of ‘Larger than Yourself’ [reads] ‘The Alchemist’

=> Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages If you had the chance to listen to my recent interview with... more

31 May 2022 · 45 minutes
102. To Manage with Courage: Zach First [reads] ‘Management’

=> Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages  As a reader and someone who’s been immersed in business for 30... more

24 May 2022 · 40 minutes
101. How to Hold Gifts of Responsibility & Grief: Stephen Jenkinson, author of ‘Die Wise’ [reads] ‘From the Republic of Conscience’

=> Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages ‘When a man turns 30, he realizes that his life isn’t working.’  I... more

17 May 2022 · 51 minutes
100. #100 Where it All Began: Michael Bungay Stanier [reads] ‘The Fellowship of the Ring’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. If you’re a listener of... more

10 May 2022 · 18 minutes
99. The Sacred and The Mundane: Mia Birdsong, author of ‘How We Show Up’ [reads] ‘Braiding Sweetgrass’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. ‘Traveller, there is no path.... more

02 May 2022 · 45 minutes
98. And the Walls Became the World: Chris West, author of ‘Strong Language’ [reads] ‘Where the Wild Things Are’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. Picture this: King Arthur, the... more

26 Apr 2022 · 34 minutes
97. [Replay] I Am Disabled But Not Broken: Christa Couture, author of ‘How to Lose Everything’ [reads] ‘Brilliant Imperfection’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. Today, we're pulling one of... more

19 Apr 2022 · 37 minutes
96. Getting Better at Falling Apart: Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe, author of ‘Calm Within the Storm’ [reads] ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. What’s the language you go... more

12 Apr 2022 · 39 minutes
95. The Countercultural Leader: Steve Morrow [reads] ‘Conscious Business’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. Of the little reality surrounding... more

05 Apr 2022 · 37 minutes
94. Who do you serve?: Dave Stachowiak [reads] ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. A famous quote by Albert... more

29 Mar 2022 · 49 minutes
93. How to Be an Outlier on the Inside: Gina Jeneroux [reads] ‘Switch’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. If you were to summarize... more

22 Mar 2022 · 38 minutes
92. Dancing with Ambition: Eric Zimmer [reads] ‘The Heart of Understanding’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. You might know this fable:... more

15 Mar 2022 · 43 minutes
91. Civility & Community: Christine Porath, author of ‘Mastering Community,’ [reads] ‘Man’s Search For Meaning

On the radio the other day, I heard something that I can’t forget: “If you’re unhappy with the state of... more

08 Mar 2022 · 43 minutes
90. Rise up!: Todd Kashdan, author of ‘The Art of Insubordination’ [reads] ‘The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.   With so much of the... more

01 Mar 2022 · 48 minutes
89. In All Your Messy Glory: Naomi Shragai, author of ‘The Man Who Mistook His Job for His Life’ [reads] ‘See Under: Love’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.   I’ve resisted therapy for almost... more

22 Feb 2022 · 43 minutes
88. The Search for Purpose: Arthur Brooks, Author of From Strength to Strength, [reads] ‘Meditations

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.   There’s no doubt that I... more

15 Feb 2022 · 45 minutes
86. How to be Not Perfect: Kate Berardo [reads] ‘Bird by Bird’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.   What’s your relationship with ambition?... more

08 Feb 2022 · 26 minutes
Announcement: One Episode Per Week

2 Pages with MBS is going to be releasing only one new episode per week from now on. Michael explains... more

03 Feb 2022 · 2 minutes
85. How to Be (& Not Be) Yourself: Steven D’Souza, author of Not Being [reads] ‘The Self Delusion’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.   One of my favourite words... more

01 Feb 2022 · 42 minutes
84. Vault: Trust is the Key: Jennifer Paylor [reads] “Leadership and Self-Deception”

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. If you can imagine a... more

27 Jan 2022 · 36 minutes
83. Vault: Killing Your Ego: Riaz Meghji, author of ‘Every Conversation Counts,’ [reads] “Everyone Communicates, Few Connect”

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. The pandemic has brought about... more

25 Jan 2022 · 34 minutes
82. Vault: How to be a Moral Leader: Sandra Sucher, author of The Power of Trust [reads] ‘The Making of the Atomic Bomb’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. During the first phase of... more

20 Jan 2022 · 44 minutes
81. Vaults: The Dilemmas of a CEO: Dig Howitt [reads] ‘In Search of Excellence'

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. Have you ever wondered what... more

18 Jan 2022 · 32 minutes
80. How to Begin VI: Who Are You Travelling With with Jesse Finkelstein, Co-Founder of Page Two

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. It’s launch week for How... more

13 Jan 2022 · 20 minutes
79. Why I Wrote How to Begin

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. Today is January 11th, 2022... more

11 Jan 2022 · 10 minutes
78. Vaults: How (and why) to be good-ish: Dolly Chugh, author of ‘The Person You Mean to Be’, [reads] ‘A More Beautiful and Terrible History’

In anticipation of the new book’s launch in January, we’re reaching into the vaults to pull the best episodes for... more

06 Jan 2022 · 35 minutes
77. How to Begin V: Remembering Your Best Qualities with Eric Klein

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. I was in a mastermind... more

04 Jan 2022 · 20 minutes
76. Vaults: You are Predictably Imperfect: Katy Milkman, author of ‘How to Change’, [reads] 'Nudge'

In anticipation of the new book’s launch in January, we’re reaching into the vaults to pull the best episodes for... more

30 Dec 2021 · 37 minutes
75. Vaults: Hope For Tomorrow: Roman Krznaric, Author of ‘The Good Ancestor’ and ‘How to Find Fulfilling Work’, [reads] “Basin and Range”

In anticipation of the launch of Michael’s new book, we’re reaching into the vaults to pull the best episodes for... more

28 Dec 2021 · 35 minutes
74. How to Begin IV: Taking Small Steps with Ainsley Brittain

Ainsley Brittain is my co-conspirator at MBS.works; pretty much the other half of the company. She’s a lovely person, friend,... more

23 Dec 2021 · 19 minutes
73. Vaults: How to be World-Positive: Swati Mylavarapu [reads] ‘Ghost Work: How to Stop Silicon Valley from Building a New Global Underclass’

In anticipation of the launch of Michael’s new book, we’re reaching into the vaults to pull the best episodes for... more

21 Dec 2021 · 33 minutes
72. How to Begin III: Pursuing ‘You 2.0’ with Jenny Blake, author of ‘Free Time’

Writing a book can be lonely, scary, and confusing, but one of the things that has been brilliant about writing... more

16 Dec 2021 · 31 minutes
71. A Guide to Empathy: Peter Bregman, author of ‘You Can Lead Other People’ [reads] ‘The Invitation’ x ‘The Guest House’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. When I was in Lisbon... more

14 Dec 2021 · 34 minutes
70. How to Begin II: Connect to Your Best Self with Octavia Goredema, author of ‘Prep, Push, Pivot’

Octavia Goredema is many things; a British woman thriving in LA, a career coach, a champion for women, and a... more

09 Dec 2021 · 16 minutes
69. How to Face Resistance: Loran Nordgren, co-author of ‘The Human Element’, [reads] ‘My Grandmother’s Love Letters’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. We’ve probably all had the... more

07 Dec 2021 · 37 minutes
68. How to Begin I: Prizes & Punishments with Mark Bowden, author of ‘Truth & Lies’

Mark Bowden and I have known each other for at least 15 years. He’s a great friend, and a wonderful... more

02 Dec 2021 · 16 minutes
67. When to Wave the Purple Flag: Kim Scott, author of ‘Radical Candor’ and ‘Just Work’, [reads] ‘Man’s Search For Meaning’

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. ‘We shape our buildings; thereafter... more

30 Nov 2021 · 42 minutes
66. How to Resist Cynicism: Michael Bachelard, Deputy Editor of The Age [reads] ‘Bliss’

I had a few nicknames growing up; Flat Stanier after the book series Flat Stanley, which was shortened to Flat... more

25 Nov 2021 · 39 minutes
65. How to Engage with Reality: Susan Weinschenk, Author of ‘100 Things Every Designer Needs to Know About People’ [reads] ‘Beyond Happiness’

One of my first business trips was to Scotland, and it was more like a nightmare rather than a dream... more

23 Nov 2021 · 39 minutes
64. Why Greed is Dead: John Kay, author of ‘Obliquity’ and ‘Radical Uncertainty’, [reads] ‘The Secret of Our Success’

Briefly, at The Australian National University, I was a member of AIESEC, an international group of economics students. There were... more

18 Nov 2021 · 31 minutes
63. Rebooting Democracy: DeNora Getachew, CEO of DoSomething.org, [reads] ‘Caste’

Where did we get this idea of ‘the youth will save us’? What a burden for them, and what a... more

16 Nov 2021 · 39 minutes
62. How to Love the Unknown: Sarah Stein Greenberg, author of ‘Creative Acts for Curious People’, [reads] ‘The Sixth Extinction’

One of the influences on my life is a man called Simon Bailey. He was a visualiser; he’d show up... more

11 Nov 2021 · 42 minutes
61. Living in Two Worlds: Tope Folarin, author of ‘A Particular Type of Black Man’ [reads] ‘The Half-Finished Heaven’

At the ANU Law School, I wrote a thesis about applying English Literature theory to reading laws: ‘How have what... more

09 Nov 2021 · 30 minutes
60. How to Build Something: Seth Levine, author of ‘The New Builders’, [reads] ‘Technological Revolutions and Financial Capital’

I’m an accidental entrepreneur. I started Box of Crayons about twenty years ago because I had just been fired from... more

04 Nov 2021 · 45 minutes
59. The Powerful Pause: Juliet Funt, author of ‘A Minute to Think’ [reads] ‘When Things Fall Apart’

It irks me to confess this, but I am still in thrall to my to-do list. I’ve been writing about... more

02 Nov 2021 · 39 minutes
58. Whose Side Are You On?: David Gardner author of ‘The Motley Fool’ [reads] ‘The Pickwick Papers’

I’m a reader. Not only do I love books, I love to read them in an old-school way: my eyes... more

28 Oct 2021 · 40 minutes
57. Hands and Feet Community: Pamela Slim, author of ‘The Widest Net’ and ‘Body of Work’ [reads] ‘Bird by Bird’

When my wife, Marcella, retired from Box of Crayons about three years ago, she spent a bit of time feeling... more

26 Oct 2021 · 42 minutes
56. What Technology Promises: Azeem Azhar, author of ‘The Exponential Age’, [reads] ‘The Nature of Technology’

Sometimes it’s just hard to wrap your head around science. How old the planet is, is actually impossible to really... more

21 Oct 2021 · 40 minutes
55. How to Thrive: Liz Wiseman, author of ‘Multipliers’ and ‘Impact Players’ [reads] ‘The Road to Character’

My surname is Bungay Stanier. It used to be just Stanier, but when I got married back in 1995, Marcella... more

19 Oct 2021 · 43 minutes
54. How to Remember (and How to Forget): Scott A. Small, author of ‘Forgetting’ [reads] ‘Funes the Memorious’

What’s the clearest memory you have of something from a while ago? I’ve got a few flash moments that come... more

14 Oct 2021 · 43 minutes
53. How to Hold a Flower: Muriel Wilkins, author of ‘Own the Room’ [reads] ‘The Untethered Soul’

I’ve just come back from a run. Today is a beautiful autumn day, and yet I missed most of it.... more

12 Oct 2021 · 39 minutes
52. To Read Is to Change: David A. Robertson, author of ‘The Barren Grounds’ and ‘The Great Bear’ [reads] ‘Tom’s Midnight Garden’

If you’re listening to this podcast, my bet is that you, like me, are a reader. You love a good... more

07 Oct 2021 · 36 minutes
51. Feeling all the Feelings: Kristoffer “KC” Carter, author of ‘Permission to Glow’, [reads] ‘Autobiography Of A Yogi’

We don’t know about matter. 96% of the universe’s mass is unaccounted for. We don’t understand consciousness either. No one... more

05 Oct 2021 · 37 minutes
50. How to be a Moral Leader: Sandra Sucher, author of The Power of Trust [reads] ‘The Making of the Atomic Bomb’

During the first phase of the pandemic I experimented with a type of online gathering, which I called Cocktails and... more

30 Sep 2021 · 43 minutes
49. How to Survive Being Creative: Jessica Abel, author of ‘Out on the Wire’, [reads] ‘How to Write an Autobiographical Novel’

Shell ran their first scenario planning session in 1971, and they’ve been sharing some of their insights since then. In... more

28 Sep 2021 · 36 minutes
48. How to See the World Anew: Sara Hendren, Author of ‘What Can a Body Do?’ [reads] ‘Life as We Know It’

Now I’m in my fifties, I’m no longer calling myself ‘young’. That time has come and gone. Being this age,... more

23 Sep 2021 · 40 minutes
47. Humility & Trust: Rachel Botsman, author of ‘Who Can You Trust’ and ‘What’s Mine Is Yours’ [reads] ‘Quiet’

Have you ever done a trust fall? The strong hands of your team catch you and support you, and in... more

21 Sep 2021 · 33 minutes
46. How to be *Really* Happy: Stephanie Harrison [reads] ‘The Way of the Bodhisattva’

Christmastime in Australia is in mid-summer. The Northern hemisphere traditions of ugly sweaters, roasted meats, and roaring fires really just... more

16 Sep 2021 · 43 minutes
45. The Law of the Rubber Band: Naphtali Bryant [reads] ‘The 15 Invaluable Laws of Growth’

I have a new book coming out in January, it’s called How to Begin. The book is about setting a... more

14 Sep 2021 · 31 minutes
44. How to Value Yourself: Stacey Vanek Smith, author of ‘Machiavelli for Women’ [reads] ‘How Proust Can Change Your Life’

I’ve never been that great at following a map. When I’d go hiking or tried orienteering, I’d struggle to put... more

09 Sep 2021 · 34 minutes
43. How to Navigate Failure: Brad Stulberg, author of The Practice of Groundedness [reads] ‘The Sane Society’

How do you head for the heights and not lose yourself? Is it possible to be ambitious and strive for... more

07 Sep 2021 · 35 minutes
42. Cooperation and Competition: Nichola Raihani, author of ‘The Social Instinct’ [reads] ‘On the Origin of Species’

I’m seven, playing cricket in my backyard in Canberra. I’m batting, my seventy-year-old grandmother is bowling, and I hit an... more

02 Sep 2021 · 50 minutes
41. How to Reinvent Yourself: Jenny Valentish, author of ‘Everything Harder’ [reads] Giraldi’s ‘The Hero’s Body’

Jenny Valentish reading from William Giraldi’s The Hero’s Body and discussing the ups and downs of reinventing yourself.  How far have... more

31 Aug 2021 · 33 minutes
40. How to be a Beginner: Tom Vanderbilt, author of ‘Beginners’ [reads] Epstein’s ‘Range’

Tom Vanderbuilt reading from David Epstein’s Range and discussing the art of beginning and learning new skills. There’s a New Yorker... more

26 Aug 2021 · 41 minutes
39. How to Rethink Ambition: Kieran Setiya, author of ‘Midlife’ [reads] Aristotle’s ‘Nicomachean Ethics’

Here’s a saying I heard once - it used to be hilarious, now I guess it’s just painfully true: “Inside... more

24 Aug 2021 · 47 minutes
38. How to Keep Creating: Jessica Hagy, ‘How to be Fearless’ x ‘The Stranger in the Woods’

When I think of philosophy, I think ... lots of words, mostly humourless. So, it’s extraordinary when someone can make... more

19 Aug 2021 · 30 minutes
37. Empathy and Argument: Tamsen Webster, ‘Find Your Red Thread’ x ‘Mistakes Were Made (But not by Me)’

Part of the genius of humankind, the very bedrock of civilization is our ability to have ideas and to share... more

17 Aug 2021 · 46 minutes
36. How to Practice Understanding: Pamay Bassey, CLO Kraft Heinz x ‘The War of Art’

Most of us understand why diversity and inclusion matters, in theory. But, how do you go from theory to practice?... more

12 Aug 2021 · 33 minutes
35. How to Think Straight: Julia Galef, author of ‘The Scout Mindset’ reads from ‘How to Actually Change Your Mind’

Science and economics, two models underpinning society, base their theories on humans being rational people doing rational things. Yeah. You,... more

10 Aug 2021 · 40 minutes
34. How to Act Like a Leader: Joel Constable, L&D at Intuit x ‘Act Like a Leader, Think Like a Leader’

I started my career in market research, running focus groups. I was seeking consumer insights so we could find and... more

05 Aug 2021 · 36 minutes
33. How to Shape the Future of Work: Lisa Gill x ‘Leadership and the New Science: Discovering Order in a Chaotic World’

The pandemic has accelerated this conversation around the future of work in a way that would have felt inconceivable two... more

03 Aug 2021 · 45 minutes
32. How to be World-Positive: Swati Mylavarapu x ‘Ghost Work: How to Stop Silicon Valley from Building a New Global Underclass’

We are all investors. Whether it concerns our time, our focus, or our money, we choose where we want to... more

29 Jul 2021 · 33 minutes
31. How to Get to Grips with Reality: Oliver Burkeman x ‘Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life’

Do you measure time passing by years or by days? Did you know that an 80-year-old has about 30,000 days... more

27 Jul 2021 · 30 minutes
30. Joy and Power: Minna Salami x ‘The Sex Lives of African Women’

Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Justin Trudeau’s father and former Prime Minister of Canada, famously said 'There's no place for the State... more

22 Jul 2021 · 37 minutes
29. How to Keep Curiosity Alive: Martin Reeves x 'Radical Uncertainty: Decision-Making Beyond the Numbers'

Does business shrink the heart or does it help it expand? Does it nourish the spirit? Can it even nourish... more

20 Jul 2021 · 39 minutes
28. How to Resist Conformity: Julie Lythcott-Haims x 'Educated'

Have I ever been embarrassed by some of the things I've done in the past? Endlessly. Have I ever been... more

15 Jul 2021 · 47 minutes
27. You are Predictably Imperfect: Katy Milkman x 'Nudge'

The belief that we have free will and that we are in charge of what goes on around us is... more

13 Jul 2021 · 36 minutes
26. How to focus on what matters: John Zeratsky x 'Rapt'

Much like Dug the dog from the Pixar movie ‘Up,’ we all have our version of a squirrel that distracts... more

08 Jul 2021 · 39 minutes
25. How to Deconstruct Yourself: Luke Burgis x 'Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World'

Does doing your work add to your sense of humanity … or lessen it? In this episode, Luke Burgis discusses... more

06 Jul 2021 · 41 minutes
24. How to be 100% Yourself: Jordan Dinwiddie x 'Nubia: Real One'

Who's your favourite superhero? And now … what's the colour of their skin? Excluding greens and blues and purples, there... more

01 Jul 2021 · 33 minutes
23. What To Do With Power: Matthew Barzun x ‘Toward a Fateful Serenity’

What power do you have? We know power can be taken and hoarded, but can power be given away? I’ve... more

29 Jun 2021 · 50 minutes
22. One Way to be an Activist: Dr. Caroline Heldman x ‘On Being White ... And Other Lies’

Did you have rules growing up? As the eldest child, I definitely had some of the ‘good in theory’ rules... more

24 Jun 2021 · 39 minutes
21. The Power of Being a Generalist: Vikram Mansharamani x ‘The Peter Principle’

Have you ever felt like a victim of your reputation? You gain recognition for something; you claim it as your... more

22 Jun 2021 · 41 minutes
20. How (and why) to be good-ish: Dolly Chugh x A More Beautiful and Terrible History

On a scale of 1-10, how good of a person are you? Yeah, tricky question. And even trickier: Is the... more

17 Jun 2021 · 34 minutes
19. How to Overcome Loneliness: Ximena Vengoechea x “Reclaiming Conversation”

There are times when I feel sad. My sadness is often accompanied by feelings of loneliness - I feel disconnected... more

15 Jun 2021 · 39 minutes
18. Do We Want the Other Half to Fail?: Indra Adnan x ‘A Theory of Everything’

Whatever country you’re living in, perhaps you feel the divide between ‘us’ and ‘them’ is becoming sharper. And that chasm... more

10 Jun 2021 · 51 minutes
17. I am disabled but not broken: Christa Couture x ‘Brilliant Imperfection’

We all have labels - some are given to us, and some, we give ourselves. Christa Couture says that how... more

08 Jun 2021 · 37 minutes
16. Goes to 11: A.J. Jacobs x ‘The Bible’

There’s a scene in the music mockumentary, This Is Spinal Tap, where one character reveals his amp collection. One, in... more

03 Jun 2021 · 38 minutes
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What power do you have? We know power can be taken and hoarded, but can power be given away? I’ve walked the... more