Women Physicians Lead: Leadership tips and work-life strategies for women physicians Dr. Lisa Herbert

In this podcast episode, Dr. Lisa Herbert hosts Dr. Saria Saccocio, the East Region Chief Medical Officer of CareMore Health. We discuss Dr. Saccocio's career transition from family physician to healthcare leader, emphasizing the significance of patient-physician relationships and community engagement. Dr. Saccocio shares her leadership journey, the role of mentors, and the day-to-day life of a CMO. We both reflect on personal themes of "transition" and "growth," sharing insights on resilience, courage, and work-life balance. The conversation concludes with Dr. Saccocio's advice on living authentically.
Introduction (00:00:03)
Dr. Herbert introduces Dr. Saria Saccocio and sets the stage for the podcast episode.

Background and Inspiration (00:01:10)
Dr. Saccocio shares her background as a family physician and her inspiration for teaching and connecting with the community.

Mentors and Leadership (00:04:50)
Dr. Saccocio discusses the mentors who influenced her leadership journey and the importance of having supportive mentors.

Role of CMO (00:06:32)
Dr. Saccocio explains the role of a Chief Medical Officer and the variety of tasks and responsibilities involved in her daily life.

Transition and Growth (00:11:37)
Dr. Saccocio reflects on a period of transition in her life, emphasizing the importance of growth and courage in pursuing new opportunities.

Self-care and Balance (00:16:22)
Dr. Saccocio shares her strategies for maintaining balance, including prioritizing sleep, exercise, family time, and community engagement.

Final Thoughts (00:19:01)
Dr. Herbert highlights key insights from the conversation and invites Dr. Saccocio to share any additional tips or thoughts.

Conclusion (00:22:21)
Dr. Saccocio and Dr. Herbert conclude the interview, expressing gratitude and well wishes for each other.
You can connect with Dr. Saccocio on LinkedIn

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Dr. Lisa Herbert shares how she navigated the challenging waters from clinical medicine to a leadership role. She realized the profound impact this transition had on her personal and professional life. In this blog post, she shares with you the insights and lessons learned along the way, and how you too can make this transformative journey.
One of the most important aspects of transitioning to a leadership role is self-discovery and self-reflection. It's a major life transition that can shake the very foundations of your identity, lifestyle, and well-being.

Self-Discovery and Reflection (00:00:01) Importance of self-reflection and personal growth in transitioning from clinical medicine to leadership.
Reasons for Transition (00:01:23) Various reasons why women physicians seek to transition to leadership roles, including making a broader impact and seeking more structure and flexibility.
Challenges of Transition (00:02:34) The difficulties and challenges faced during the transition from clinical medicine to a leadership role, and the need for guidance and support.
Pillars of Successful Transition (00:03:54) Introduction to the pillars of a successful transition, focusing on the importance of self-reflection and personal development.
Aligning Career with Values (00:05:17) The significance of aligning career choices with personal values and the impact on fulfillment, authenticity, and decision-making.
Clarifying Values and Vision (00:06:48) Exercises to clarify personal values and vision, including reflective questions, creating a vision board, and writing a letter to the future self.
Assessing Skills and Gaps (00:13:28) Reflecting on skills and identifying gaps, utilizing tools like personality tests and assessments to gain insight and grow as a leader.

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In this episode of the Women Physicians Lead podcast, Dr. Lisa Herbert explores the emotional journey of physicians transitioning from clinical practice to leadership roles. She discusses the stages of grief that can accompany this change, including denial, anger, bargaining, sadness, and acceptance. Dr. Herbert shares her personal experiences, the challenges she faced, and the strategies she used to cope with the transition. She emphasizes the importance of understanding one's motivations, seeking support, and engaging in self-care. Additionally, she highlights the growth and development opportunities in leadership and encourages physicians to embrace the change.
Grief and Growth (00:01:13) Discussion on fears, hopes, and expectations when transitioning from clinical medicine to leadership.
Stages of grief (00:02:36) Exploration of the stages of grief when leaving clinical medicine for a leadership role.
Personal experience (00:04:53) Dr. Lisa Herbert shares her personal experience and emotional challenges when transitioning from clinical medicine to leadership.
Coping strategies (00:06:17) Strategies for coping with grief and sadness when transitioning out of clinical medicine to leadership.
Fulfillment in leadership (00:09:07) Discussion on the fulfillment and satisfaction found in leadership roles for physicians.
Conclusion and action item (00:11:46) Encouragement to start a journal and reflect on the transition, as well as a call to action for personal and professional development.
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In this podcast episode, Dr. Lisa Herbert, a family physician and leadership coach, explores the concept of transition, especially for physicians moving from clinical roles to leadership positions. Dr. Herbert discusses the emotional aspects of transitions, the importance of resilience, and the need for a supportive network. She encourages listeners to embrace change and personal growth and concludes by teasing the upcoming season's focus on leadership mindsets and adapting to corporate culture.

Transition and Leadership (00:00:01)
Dr. Lisa Herbert introduces the theme of transition and its relevance to leadership, discussing past episodes and the goals for the new season.

Understanding Transition (00:01:37)
Dr. Herbert defines transition, discusses its implications, and how it applies to personal, emotional, professional, and health aspects.

Embracing Transition (00:02:57)
She explores the emotional and mental aspects of transitioning from clinical medicine to leadership, emphasizing resilience and openness to new experiences.

Navigating Life's Transitions (00:04:19)
The episode delves into the emotions and opportunities of transitions, encouraging listeners to embrace change and bounce back from setbacks.

Reflective Questions (00:06:58)
Dr. Herbert provides reflective questions for listeners to consider as they navigate their transitions and plan for success in their leadership roles.

Building a Support Team (00:09:21)
The importance of having a support system during transitions is emphasized, with suggestions for identifying and engaging with mentors, sponsors, friends, colleagues, and coaches.

Laying the Foundation for Season Five (00:10:32)
The episode sets the stage for the new season, outlining the stages of leadership development and the topics to be explored, and inviting listeners to follow the podcast and social media.

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In this podcast episode, Dr. Lisa Herbert interviews Dr. John Moore about his career and the Montana College of Osteopathic Medicine's dedication to global health. Dr. Moore discusses his background, Dr. Moore earned his BS degree from the United States Naval Academy and his Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) Degree from Nova Southeastern University. He holds a Master’s Degree in Public Health from the University of West Florida. He completed residencies in Family and Aerospace Medicine while on active duty with the U.S. Navy. Dr. Moore is Board Certified in Family Medicine and a Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians. He discusses his role as Assistant Dean of Preclinical Education for the Montana College of Osteopathic Medicine and the college's vision for medical education and its commitment to improving global health, particularly through a partnership with the Gambia. The episode emphasizes the importance of fostering a global perspective among medical students and the value of personal connections in international collaborations. The discussion also touches on the osteopathic focus on holistic care.

Guest Introduction (00:01:50)
Dr. Lisa Herbert introduces Dr. John Moore and discusses the mission of US clinicians traveling to the Gambia for a medical mission trip.

Dr. Moore's Career and Leadership Journey (00:05:35)
Dr. Moore discusses his career in the US Navy, his transition to academia, and his commitment to global health.

Role as Assistant Dean of Preclinical Education (00:09:08)
Dr. Moore talks about his role in creating a conducive learning environment for medical students and faculty at the Montana College of Osteopathic Medicine.

Creating a Sense of Belonging (00:11:17)
Dr. Moore emphasizes the importance of fostering a sense of belonging for students, faculty, and staff at the college.

Commitment to Global Health (00:15:08)
Dr. Moore discusses the college's commitment to global health and its vision to achieve new heights in medical education.

Collaboration with the Gambia Collaborative Project (00:19:52)
Dr. Moore highlights the two-way impact of the collaboration with the Gambia, emphasizing the exchange of knowledge and experiences.

Impact on Medical Students (00:22:09)
Dr. Moore discusses the potential impact of the Gambia mission on medical students, emphasizing the importance of patient interactions and foundational aspects of medicine.

The mind, body, and spirit connection (00:23:50)
Discussion on the principles of osteopathic medicine and how they align with holistic patient care.

Collaboration between Montana College of Osteopathic Medicine and the Gambia (00:24:36)
Exploring the hopes for a learning partnership, faculty and student involvement, and the importance of in-person interaction.

Conclusion and call to action (00:26:08)
Expressing gratitude, anticipation for the partnership's growth, and an invitation to support the Gambia project.

In this podcast episode, Dr. Adayna Upchurch Burrows, a seasoned pediatrician discusses her upcoming transformative journey to The Gambia, her dedication to serving lower socioeconomic communities, and her eagerness to learn from and contribute to non-western medical practices. Dr. Burrows graduated from Howard University, Howard Medical College, and completed her residency at Howard University Hospital.

The introduction (00:00:00)
Dr. Carol Penn introduces the podcast and the purpose of the collaboration between US clinicians and Gambian medical professionals.

Dr. Lisa Herbert's introduction (00:01:31)
Dr. Lisa Herbert welcomes the audience and introduces the purpose of the podcast, highlighting the collaboration between US clinicians and Gambian medical professionals.

Dr. Adina Upchurch Burrows' background (00:02:42)
Dr. Adina Upchurch Burrows shares her background, including her experiences as a pediatrician and her passion for fitness and teaching.

Inspiration for joining the collaboration (00:12:26)
Dr. Adina Upchurch Burrows discusses her inspiration for joining the collaboration, including her desire to see medicine in a non-Western environment and to experience a different way of life.

Challenges and access to healthcare in the Gambia (00:15:35)
Dr. Adina Upchurch Burrows discusses the potential medical challenges in the Gambia, including access to medicine, medical exams, diagnosis, and treatment.

Preparation for unexpected situations (00:19:28)
Dr. Adina Upchurch Burrows shares her approach to preparing for and responding to sudden changes or unexpected medical situations, emphasizing the importance of remaining calm and assessing the situation.

Envisioning short-term and long-term outcomes (00:22:41)
Dr. Adina Upchurch Burrows discusses her vision for establishing rapport with the Gambian community and the lasting impact of the collaboration on advancing healthcare for people of color.

Relationship Building (00:23:22)
Discussion on building relationships across continents and diaspora, with hopes for collaboration and expansion to other countries.

Collaborative Opportunities (00:24:43)
Expressing hope for collaboration with other organizations and the potential for expansion to other areas beyond the Gambia.

Planting Seeds (00:25:59)
Mention of collaborative opportunities with other organizations to plant seeds in different places, fostering relationships and expanding impact.

Fostering Relationships (00:26:29)
Expressing gratitude for the opportunity to foster relationships and admiration for transitioning from clinical work to fulfilling pursuits.

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