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Sounds of SAND is a podcast from Science and Nonduality which contemplates and reveres the beauty, complexity, pain, and great mystery that weave the infinite cycles of existence.
We explore beyond ultimate truths, binary thinking, and individual awakening while acknowledging humanity as a mere part of the intricate web of life.

Episodes tap into SAND’s rich history and collaborative future by presenting talks, dialogs, interviews, readings, music, and recordings from SAND Conferences, events, and webinars weaving timeless wisdom and embodied experience.
Let’s listen, learn, and share.

➡️ Find out more at scienceandnonduality.com

💌 Reach out to us at podcast@scienceandnonduality.com

Sounds of SAND Science and Nonduality

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Sounds of SAND is a podcast from Science and Nonduality which contemplates and reveres the beauty, complexity, pain, and great mystery that weave the infinite cycles of existence.
We explore beyond ultimate truths, binary thinking, and individual awakening while acknowledging humanity as a mere part of the intricate web of life.

Episodes tap into SAND’s rich history and collaborative future by presenting talks, dialogs, interviews, readings, music, and recordings from SAND Conferences, events, and webinars weaving timeless wisdom and embodied experience.
Let’s listen, learn, and share.

➡️ Find out more at scienceandnonduality.com

💌 Reach out to us at podcast@scienceandnonduality.com

    #81 Ecology of Care: DRĖĖĖMY

    #81 Ecology of Care: DRĖĖĖMY

    Reem (DRĖĖĖMY) Abdou is a native Egyptian international interdisciplinary sound artist, embodiment and meditation guide, curator, cultural worker, and community building founder of the inclusive global impact agency for women+ & BIPOC holistic artists: The Collective BAE. As an intentional DJ and spoken word poet, her work harnesses music, movement, and meditation to activate real shifts at the intersection of transformational creativity, social and healing justice, and ecosystem consciousness.

    Links:


    www.dreeemy.com
    instagram.com/dreeemy
    www.collectivebae.com

     

    Upcoming projects:


    Join The BAE (RE)MEMBERSHIPS: An Ecology of Care for Conscious Creatives. We'll be launching a full training course this May.
    The release of the 2nd EP: SALTWATERS in the Mother & Water project. It will be released this May.

    Topics:


    00:00 — Introduction
    03:00 — Ancestry & Dream work
    06:45 — Communities
    11:19 — Bass Yoga
    17:19 — Gradients & Binaries
    23:17 — Ecologies of Care
    32:33 — Sacred Activism
    36:51 — Post-COVID Shift
    45:31 — Egyptian Lineage
    53:44 — Upcoming Projects

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    #80 Awaking Hope: Rev. Deborah L. Johnson

    #80 Awaking Hope: Rev. Deborah L. Johnson

    Rev Deborah L Johnson (Rev D) is a dynamic organizer, strategist, facilitator, public speaker, andspoken word artist, known for her ability to bring clarity to complex and emotionally chargedissues with humor and compassion. As an organizational consultant specializing in culturaldiversity, she serves the public, private, non-profit, and military sectors. Her clients haveincluded, MCA Universal, ATT, Apple Inc, Hewlett Packard, Kaiser Permanente, US Coast GuardAcademy, Ford Foundation, SBC Communications, UCSF, Prudential, and Kodak. Rev Deborah isa successful co-litigant in two landmark civil rights cases in California. The first resulted in theinclusion of sexual orientation in the state’s Civil Rights Bill in 1984 setting a national precedent,while the second staved off repeal of the state’s Domestic Partnership in 2005. For her social justice work, she has been featured in numerous books and films including Showtime’s Jumpin’ The Broom and has received many lifetime achievement awards including induction into the Board of Preachers at the MLK Jr. Chapel of Morehouse College.

    RevD's Upcoming Courses:

    Yes to OnenessThe 6-session “YES to Oneness” workshop is preventative medicine for divisiveness. Guided by divine downloads from my books The Sacred YES and Your Deepest Intent, we’ll go on a spiritually transformative experience. 

    How to DepolarizeThe 3-session “How to Depolarize” workshop provides diagnostic techniques and treatment plans for divisiveness. It is an interactive skills building practicum based on my 40+ years as a movement organizer, corporate DEI consultant, spiritual leader, and successful co-litigant in two landmark civil rights cases. This workshop expands upon the concepts I recently presented at Harvard Divinity School.  

    Topics:


    0:00 — Introduction
     2:51 — Reconnecting Post-Pandemic
    4:29 — Keeping Hope Alive
    7:41 — On Nonduality
    12:27 — Balancing Social Justice
    19:59 — Everything is in Vibrations of Possibilities
    25:58 — Interfaith / Omnifaith Exploration
    33:14 — Reconnecting to our Natural State
    40:06 — Knowing Truth
    45:10 — Advice for Burnout and Connection
    50:42 — Learning and Growing in Community

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    • 59 min
    #79 Restoring Wholeness: Richard Schwartz

    #79 Restoring Wholeness: Richard Schwartz

    A recording of excerpts from a SAND Community Gathering hosted by Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo.

    Trauma has a way of separating us from parts of ourselves. Painful experiences cause protective parts to take over, isolating our inner wounds in an effort to help us survive. Yet, avoiding our emotional injuries rarely leads to true healing.

    In this conversation, Internal Family System (IFS) founder Richard Schwartz outlined how to transform our relationship with the wounded parts holding our unresolved injuries.

    Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that de-pathologizes the multi-part personality. His IFS Institute offers training for professionals and the general public. He is currently on the faculty of Harvard Medical School, and has published five books, including No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model. Dick lives with his wife Jeanne near Chicago, close to his three daughters and his growing number of grandchildren.

    Topics:


    00:00 – Introduction
    02:00 –  Intro to Internal Family System (IFS)
    16:48 – IFS work with Maurizio
    29:16 – Ancestor and Legacy Work
    38:12 – Altered States of Consciousness in IFS Work
    44:20 – Exiled Parts That Become Cultural Patterns

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    • 49 min
    #78 The Crisis in Gaza: Gabor & Daniel Maté

    #78 The Crisis in Gaza: Gabor & Daniel Maté

    In this episode we bring you excerpts from an online SAND Community Gathering with Gabor and Daniel Maté hosted by Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo from February 2024. Also present in this episode is Betsy Polatin offering guided meditation and grounding exercises as everyone navigates these difficult conversations. Lastly SAND presenter Deran Young ends the episode with a question on Racialized Trauma.

    You can watch the full video conversation here

    No statement, no words can speak to the immense suffering, devastation and horrendous humanitarian crisis intensifying in the Middle East. The current tragedy awakens existential fear, acute grief and deep despair. It also creates a rift among friends and families. Many are in a state of deep shock and in need of support, and the obstacles to communicating with loved ones only intensify the anguish.

    In this Q&A session, Dr. Gabor Maté and his son Daniel discussed ways to listen and communicate across different perspectives and narratives.

    Gabor Maté, M.D. is a specialist on trauma, addiction, stress and childhood development. After 20 years of family practice and palliative care experience, Dr. Maté worked for over a decade in Vancouver’s Downtown East Side with patients challenged by drug addiction and mental illness. For his groundbreaking medical work and writing he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country’s highest civilian distinction, and the Civic Merit Award from his hometown, Vancouver. Gabor is also the creator of a psychotherapeutic approach, Compassionate Inquiry, now studied by thousands of therapists, physicians, counselors, and others in over 80 countries.

     

    Daniel Maté is a composer, lyricist, and playwright for musical theatre based in BC and New York. He has been active since 2007, when he graduated from New York University’s Tisch School of the Arts with an M.F.A. in Musical Theatre Writing. He also holds a B.A. in Psychology and Philosophy from McGill.

    Daniel received the prestigious Edward Kleban Prize for Most Promising Lyricist in American Musical Theatre, a Jonathan Larson Foundation Grant, and the ASCAP Foundation’s Cole Porter Award for Excellence in Music and Lyrics (for his song cycle The Longing and the Short of It.) He has presented his work at the historic Kennedy Center in Washington, DC and New York’s Lincoln Center, and was an invited participant in the inaugural Johnny Mercer Writers Colony.

     

    Betsy Polatin, MFA, SEP, an internationally recognized breathing/movement specialist and best- selling author, has been teaching for 45 years. Her unique and intuitive perspectives are greatly influenced by the study of movement, breath, and trauma, as well as the teachings of spiritual and meditation masters. She speaks at conferences around the world.

    As a well-known educator, she’s had numerous articles published in the Huffington Post, and is the author of The Actor’s Secret and Humanual.

     

    Deran Young is a licensed therapist specializing in racial trauma and legacy burdens. She is also a Co-Author of the New York Times Best Seller, You Are Your Best Thing, a retired military officer, & founder of Black Therapists Rock. Black Therapists Rock is a non profit organization with a network of over 30,000 mental health professionals committed to reducing the psychological impact of systemic oppression and intergenerational trauma. She obtained her social work degree from University of Texas, where she studied abroad in Ghana, West Africa for two semesters creating a high school counseling center for under-resourced students. Deran has visited over 37 different countries and her clinical experience spans across four different continents. Her passion for culture and people has led her to become a highly sought after diversity and inclusion consultant working with companies like BBERG, Facebook, Linked In, and YWCA. She resides in the Washington DC area with her 10 year old son.

     

    Topics:

     


    00:00:00 – Introduction
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    • 1 hr 24 min
    #77 Regenerative Medicine: Mauro Zappaterra

    #77 Regenerative Medicine: Mauro Zappaterra

    Mauro Zappaterra obtained his MD and PhD degrees from Harvard Medical School. He completed his PhD doing work with neuronal stem cells and the effects of the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in brain development and in the adult. He is published in numerous scientific articles on the CSF and his work was chosen as the cover image for the prestigious Neuron Journal.  He was also featured in the New England Journal of Medicine in teaching medical students about living with life threatening diseases and in Psychology Today on an article titled “Joy: The art of loving life."

     

    Topics:


    0:00 — Introduction
    2:14 — Mauro’s Background
    9:37 — Exploring Holistic Medicine at Harvard
    17:31 — Evidence Based Medicine
    19:00 — Sound and Light Therapy
    24:10 — Day to Day Practice
    28:22 — Chronic Pain
    45:08 — Frontiers of Alternative Healing
    54:10 — CSF Guided Meditation

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    • 1 hr 9 min
    #76 Land, Lineage & Resisting Genocide

    #76 Land, Lineage & Resisting Genocide

    "This is a spiritual test, this is a spiritual war, as much as it is a material one. People say, ‘As above, so below.’ How we are interfacing with the physical realities of this moment, the ways that we are leveraging our daily energy are either making us complicit with life's desecration or helping us to affirm life and the spirit of resistance. The battle that we are in is right now!"— Layla K. Feghali on the violence in Gaza, Sounds of SAND, Ep. #76We are now over four months into a worsening genocide in Gaza — with over 30,000 murdered and over 2 million now enduring military-enforced famine enacted by Israel, the US, and their global allies. There is no way a 90-minute teaching can impact the depth of sorrow, injustice, betrayal, and state-sponsored violence unfolding in Palestine. And yet, we share a moral obligation to resist the life-desecrating forces at work.

    In this gathering, our three guests share of their personal attempts as Earth-honoring ritualists and educators to embody core values and take tangible action in a time of genocide.

    Calls to Action to Support these GoFundMe Campaigns: 


    SAND’s GoFundMe to help Amina & her family
    Layla Feghali’s connection to Ahmed Al Munirawi’s campaign
    Layla Feghali’s connection to Reem Shaheen’s campaign

     

    Guests:Daniel Foor is a doctor of psychology, experienced ritualist, and the author of Ancestral Medicine: Rituals for Personal and Family Healing. He is a practicing Muslim and initiate in the Òrìṣà tradition of Yoruba-speaking West Africa who has also learned from Mahayan Buddhism and the older ways of his English and German ancestors. Daniel was a U.S. Fulbright scholar in Cairo, Egypt as a student of Arabic language, and he is passionate about generational healing and training leaders and change makers in the intersections of cultural healing, animist ethics, and applied ritual arts. He lives with his wife and daughters near his adoptive home of Granada, Spain in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

    Taya Mâ Shere is a ritual artist embracing embodied, earth-honoring devotion as liberatory spiritual practice. She serves as a professor of Organic Multi-Religious Ritual at Starr King School for the Ministry and co-weaves Makam Shekhina, a Jewish and Sufi Muslim multi-religious community committed to counter-oppressive spiritual practice. Taya Mâ hosts the acclaimed podcast, Jewish Ancestral Healing and The Sarah & Hajar Series: Sacred Practice and Possibility at the Intersections of Judaism and Islam. She is currently tending Ceasefire movement chaplaincy and From the Deep, an emergent mystery school of earth-reverent ritual and counter-oppressive devotion. She co-founded the Kohenet movement and  is co-author of The Hebrew Priestess: Ancient and New Visions of Jewish Women’s Spiritual Leadership. Her five albums of sacred chant have been heralded as “cutting-edge mystic medicine music.”Layla K. Feghali is an ethnobotanist, cultural worker, and author who lives between her ancestral village in Lebanon and her diasporic home in California, where she was born and raised. Her dedication is the stewardship of our earth’s eco-cultural integrity and the many layers of relational restoration, systemic reckoning, and healing that entails. Feghali offers a line of plantcestral medicine and other culturally-rooted offerings, with an emphasis on Southwest Asia and its diasporas. Her recent book, The Land in Our Bones, documents cultural herbal and healing knowledge from Syria to the Sinai, while interrogating colonialism and its lingering wounds on the culture of our displaced world.

     

    Topics:

     


    00:00:00 — Introduction
    00:05:43 — Daniel Foor
    00:21:44 — Taya Mâ Shere
    00:35:44 — Layla K. Feghali
    01:00:28 — Guided Practice
    01:10:22 — Questions from the Event Chat
    01:20:29 — Yeye Luisha Teish
    01:23:48 — Closing Statements

     

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    • 1 hr 31 min

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