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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse... more

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Episodes

Answering your biggest Decoder questions

The Decoder team turns the tables on Nilay and makes him answer your burning listener questions in our end-of-year wrap... more

20 Dec 2024 · 53 minutes
Tech antitrust is about to get really weird

Today we’re talking about antitrust policy and tech, which is at a particularly weird moment as we enter the second... more

18 Dec 2024 · 36 minutes
Arm CEO Rene Haas on the AI chip race, Intel, and what Trump means for tech

Alex Heath, Deputy Editor at The Verge, guest hosts this episode of Decoder featuring a live interview with Arm CEO... more

16 Dec 2024 · 41 minutes
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

We’ve been talking a lot this year about the changing internet, and what it’s doing to the media ecosystem —... more

13 Dec 2024 · 53 minutes
Why every company wants a podcast now

There’s something strange happening these days in the podcast world — in particular, the way companies that deal in money... more

11 Dec 2024 · 38 minutes
Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman says conversational AI is the next web browser

Today, I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. Mustafa is a fascinating character in the world of... more

09 Dec 2024 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
AI is a money pit — here’s why investors don’t mind

AI investment is massive, but AI profits are not — and yet investors seem confident massive AI fundraising will one day... more

05 Dec 2024 · 33 minutes
Rewind: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber on the future of federated social media

Bluesky has really taken off since the election, and since the Decoder team took some time off for Thanksgiving break,... more

02 Dec 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
GoDaddy CEO Aman Bhutani on the enduring power of the website

I spoke with GoDaddy CEO Aman Bhutani live on stage last week at an event hosted by Alix Partners in... more

25 Nov 2024 · 57 minutes
Remix: Google Zero is here — now what?

For nearly 20 years now, the web has been Google’s platform; we’ve all just lived on it. Google is constantly... more

21 Nov 2024 · 34 minutes
Will the world end before I can retire?

Hey everyone, it’s Nilay — Decoder is on a short break this week. We’ll be back with a special live... more

18 Nov 2024 · 45 minutes
How Trump’s second term could be bad for EVs, but great for Tesla

Today we’re talking about Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and Tesla — and I have to say, it feels like the... more

14 Nov 2024 · 35 minutes
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Harvey Mason, Jr is CEO of the Recording Academy, the nonprofit organization most famous for the Grammy Awards. We spoke... more

11 Nov 2024 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Today, we’re talking about work. Specifically, where we work, how our expectations of working remotely were radically changed by the... more

07 Nov 2024 · 39 minutes
Why GM ditched CarPlay, with software boss Baris Cetinok

Today, I’m talking with Baris Cetinok, who is in charge of all the software in the cars that GM makes,... more

04 Nov 2024 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
“It’s the First Amendment, stupid”

Trump and a bunch of billionaires, like Elon Musk, are calling for the FCC to punish TV stations by revoking... more

31 Oct 2024 · 42 minutes
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Today, I’m talking with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky, who is only the second person to be on Decoder three times... more

28 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
The AI arms race to build digital god

Today, we’re going to try and figure out "digital god." I figured we’ve been doing Decoder long enough, let’s just... more

24 Oct 2024 · 46 minutes
Intuit asked us to delete part of this Decoder episode

Today’s episode, well — it’s a ride. I’m talking to Intuit CEO Sasan Goodarzi, who’s built Intuit into a juggernaut... more

21 Oct 2024 · 56 minutes
How influencers are changing advertising with Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi

Today’s episode is a little different: Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi and I recorded this conversation live on stage during advertising... more

17 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Duolingo CEO Luis Von Ahn wants you addicted to learning

Luis von Ahn is the co-founder and CEO of Duolingo. There are lots of opportunities to enhance a product like... more

14 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
The impossible dream of good workplace software

I’m talking with my good friend David Pierce, Vergecast co-host and The Verge’s editor-at-large, about something he spends an ungodly... more

10 Oct 2024 · 50 minutes
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Rabbit’s adorable R1 gadget launched with a lot of hype, but early reviews of the device were universally bad. Now,... more

07 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

Today, I’m talking to Jason Schreier, a Bloomberg journalist and author of the new book Play Nice: The Rise, Fall,... more

03 Oct 2024 · 53 minutes
NBCU's streaming chief isn't worried about you canceling cable

Matt Strauss is the Chairman of Direct-to-Consumer at NBC Universal. That’s a big fancy title that means he’s not only... more

30 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

We have a very special episode of Decoder today. It’s become a tradition every fall to have Verge deputy editor... more

25 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Arc creator Josh Miller on why you need a better browser than Chrome

Today, I’m talking with Josh Miller, co-founder and CEO of The Browser Company, a relatively new software maker that develops... more

23 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

Google’s in the middle of its antitrust case in just as many months, after it lost a landmark trial in... more

19 Sep 2024 · 35 minutes
How Philips CEO Roy Jakobs is turning the company around after major recall

Today, I’m talking with Roy Jakobs. He’s the CEO of Royal Philips, which makes medical devices ranging from MRI machines... more

16 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Why AI image editing isn’t “just like Photoshop”

We’ve been covering the rise of AI image editing very closely here on Decoder and at The Verge for several... more

12 Sep 2024 · 45 minutes
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Today, I’m talking with Mike Krieger, the new chief product officer at Anthropic, one of the hottest AI companies in... more

09 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
How the Wayback Machine is fighting linkrot

The web has a problem: huge chunks of it keep going offline. The web isn’t static, parts of it sometimes... more

05 Sep 2024 · 44 minutes
The AI election deepfakes have arrived

Decoder is off this week for a short end-of-summer break. We’ll be back with both our interview and explainer episodes... more

29 Aug 2024 · 45 minutes
Disney Is a Tech Company?

Decoder is off this week for a short end-of-summer break. We’ll be back with both our interview and explainer episodes... more

26 Aug 2024 · 42 minutes
How The Onion is saving itself from the digital media death spiral

The Onion is a comedy institution — and like everything else in media, it went on a pure nightmare hell... more

22 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke says the AI industry needs competition to thrive

Today I’m talking with Thomas Dohmke, the CEO of GitHub. GitHub is the platform for managing code – but since... more

19 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
What's next for the controversial 'child safety' internet bill

There’s a major internet speech regulation currently making its way through Congress, and it has a really good chance of... more

15 Aug 2024 · 42 minutes
Replika CEO Eugenia Kuyda says it’s okay if we end up marrying AI chatbots

Today, I’m talking with Replika founder and CEO Eugenia Kuyda, and I will just tell you right away, we get... more

12 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
DOJ antitrust chief is ‘overjoyed’ after Google monopoly verdict

Today, I’m talking to Jonathan Kanter, the assistant attorney general for antitrust at the United States Department of Justice. This... more

08 Aug 2024 · 47 minutes
Booking CEO Glenn Fogel wants you to take out your travel frustrations on AI chatbots

Today, I’m talking with Glenn Fogel, the CEO of Booking Holdings, which owns a large portfolio of familiar travel brands:... more

05 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
AI has a climate problem — but so does all of tech

Every time we talk about AI, we get one big piece of feedback that I really want to dive into:... more

01 Aug 2024 · 36 minutes
Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber wants your next mouse to last forever

Today, I’m talking with Hanneke Faber, the CEO of Logitech. Hanneke’s still pretty fresh to the role: She joined the... more

29 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
The Supreme Court ruling that could kill net neutrality

The Supreme Court has just taken on the entire idea of the US administrative state — and the Court is... more

25 Jul 2024 · 38 minutes
Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe says too many carmakers are copying Tesla

Today, I’m talking with Rivian founder and CEO RJ Scaringe. RJ was on the show last September when we chatted... more

22 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
What happened to the metaverse?

This week I’m talking to Matthew Ball, who was last on the show in 2022 to talk about his book “The... more

18 Jul 2024 · 44 minutes
Biden’s top tech advisor on why AI safety is a “today problem”

Today, I’m talking with Arati Prabhakar, the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. That’s a... more

15 Jul 2024 · 1 hour,
Why The Atlantic signed a deal with OpenAI

Today I’m talking to Nicholas Thompson, the CEO of The Atlantic. I was really excited to talk to Nick. Like... more

11 Jul 2024 · 51 minutes
Canva CEO Melanie Perkins is happy to provide designers alternatives to Adobe

Canva got its start more than a decade ago as a different form of disruptive tech for creatives. It’s a... more

08 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
How Big Green Egg CEO Dan Gertsacov is getting zoomers into the cult of kamado cooking

It’s almost the Fourth of July, and that means it’s time for our annual grilling episode. This year, I’m talking... more

01 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
The rise of shadow lobbying and its influence on decades of US policy

Today, we’re talking about politics and lobbying in America. It’s hard to imagine a time when the influence of big... more

27 Jun 2024 · 45 minutes
Netflix co-CEO Greg Peters on the streamer's shifting culture and where ads, AI, and games fit in

Today, I’m talking with Greg Peters, the co-CEO of Netflix. I caught up with Greg while he was at the... more

24 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Inside the players and politics of the AI industry

We’ve got a special episode of the show today – I was traveling last week, so Verge deputy editor Alex... more

20 Jun 2024 · 45 minutes
Why Tubi CEO Anjali Sud thinks free TV can win again

Tubi is a free and very rapidly growing streaming TV platform — according to Nielsen, it had an average of... more

17 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Remix: How private equity took over everything

Private equity is a simple concept — a PE firm uses some combination of money and debt to buy a... more

13 Jun 2024 · 39 minutes
AI will make money sooner than you think, says Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez

Cohere is one of the buzziest AI startups around right now. It's not making consumer products; it's focused on the... more

10 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Why the video game industry is such a mess

The art of video game design is flourishing, but it feels like a really grim time to be in the... more

06 Jun 2024 · 37 minutes
Zoom CEO Eric Yuan wants AI clones in meetings

Today, I’m talking with Zoom CEO Eric Yuan — and let me tell you, this conversation is nothing like what... more

03 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Google Zero is here. Now what?

For nearly 20 years now, the web has been Google’s platform; we’ve all just lived on it. I think of... more

30 May 2024 · 27 minutes
How the FBI built its own smartphone company to hack the criminal underworld

Today, I’m talking with Joseph Cox, one of the best cybersecurity reporters around and a co-founder of the new media... more

23 May 2024 · 42 minutes
Google's Sundar Pichai on AI-powered search and the future of the web

Today, I’m talking to Google CEO Sundar Pichai, who joined the show the day after the big Google I/O developer... more

20 May 2024 · 44 minutes
TikTok's big bet to fight the ban bill

Last week, TikTok filed a lawsuit against the US government claiming the divest-or-ban law is unconstitutional — a case it... more

16 May 2024 · 46 minutes
Why Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen is confident we'll all adapt to AI

Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen has been at the top of my list of people I’ve wanted to talk to for... more

13 May 2024 · 1 hour,
Why the tech industry can’t crack the smart home

Today, we’re going to talk about the smart home — one of the oldest, most important, and most challenging dreams... more

09 May 2024 · 40 minutes
Polestar CEO Thomas Ingenlath on life after Volvo and weathering the EV slowdown

Today, I’m talking with Polestar CEO Thomas Ingenlath, whom I first interviewed on the show back in 2021. Those were... more

06 May 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Understanding the chaos at Tesla

Today, Verge transportation editor Andy Hawkins and I are going to try and figure out Tesla. I said try —... more

02 May 2024 · 39 minutes
Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius explains why EVs are still the future — but Apple's next-gen CarPlay isn't

A lot has changed since the last time Ola was on Decoder. Back then, he said Mercedes would have an... more

29 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why the TikTok ban won't solve the US's online privacy problems

Today, we’re talking about the brand-new TikTok ban — and how years of Congressional inaction on a federal privacy law... more

25 Apr 2024 · 47 minutes
Discord CEO Jason Citron makes the case for a smaller, more private internet

Today, I’m talking to Jason Citron, the co-founder and CEO of Discord, the gaming-focused voice and chat app. You might... more

22 Apr 2024 · 58 minutes
Disney just fought off a shareholder revolt — but the clock’s still ticking

Today, we're talking about Disney, the massive activist investor revolt it just fought off, and what happens next in the... more

18 Apr 2024 · 42 minutes
Dropbox CEO Drew Houston wants you to embrace AI and remote work

At the absolute most basic, Dropbox is cloud storage for your stuff — but that puts it at the nexus... more

15 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
The rise and fall of Vice Media

Today we’re talking about Vice, the media company: Where it came from, what it did, and, ultimately, why it collapsed... more

11 Apr 2024 · 43 minutes
Why Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince is the internet’s unlikely defender

Cloudflare is an infrastructure provider basically protecting more than 20% of the entire web from bad actors. When everything is... more

08 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 19 minutes
Why Nintendo sued a Switch emulator out of existence

Hello, and welcome to Decoder. This is David Pierce, editor-at-large at The Verge and co-host of The Vergecast, subbing in... more

04 Apr 2024 · 43 minutes
Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar on culture, acquisitions, and how big 'small business' really is

Today, I’m talking to Intuit Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar, who took over as CEO in 2022 after a pretty rough... more

01 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Can you patent a pizza?

Hey everyone it’s Nilay – I’m on vacation this week, so the Decoder team is taking a short break. We’ll... more

28 Mar 2024 · 52 minutes
Federation is the future of social media, says Bluesky CEO Jay Graber

Today, I’m talking to Jay Graber, the CEO of Bluesky Social, which is a decentralized competitor to Meta’s Threads, Mastodon,... more

25 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
How Europe’s Digital Markets Act is reshaping Big Tech

Both the EU and US have spent the past decade looking at Big Tech and saying, "someone should do something!"... more

21 Mar 2024 · 32 minutes
Figma CEO Dylan Field is optimistic about the future and AI

We’ve got a fun one today — I talked to Figma CEO Dylan Field in front of a live audience... more

18 Mar 2024 · 53 minutes
Why Google Search feels like it’s gotten worse

If you’ve been listening to Decoder or the Vergecast for a while, you know that I am obsessed with Google... more

14 Mar 2024 · 39 minutes
How to save culture from the algorithms, with Filterworld author Kyle Chayka

Today, I’m talking to Kyle Chayka, a staff writer for The New Yorker, a regular contributor to The Verge, and... more

11 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Why people are falling in love with AI chatbots

Our Thursday episodes are all about big topics in the news, and this week we’re wrapping up our short series... more

07 Mar 2024 · 40 minutes
Guest host Hank Green makes Nilay Patel explain why websites have a future

On this special episode of Decoder, science educator and YouTuber Hank Green is guest hosting. And the guest? It’s Nilay... more

04 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
AI deepfakes are cheap, easy, and coming for the 2024 election

Our new Thursday episodes of Decoder are all about deep dives into big topics in the news, and this week... more

29 Feb 2024 · 41 minutes
Crunchyroll President Rahul Purini on how anime took over the world

Today, I’m talking with Rahul Purini, the president of Crunchyroll, a streaming service focused entirely on anime — and really,... more

26 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Is the Apple Vision Pro All That?

The Decoder team is off this week. We’ll be back next week with both the interview and the new explainer... more

22 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
How AI copyright lawsuits could make the whole industry go extinct

Our new Thursday episodes are all about deep dives into big topics in the news, and for the next few... more

15 Feb 2024 · 40 minutes
DOJ’s Jonathan Kanter says the antitrust fight against Big Tech is just beginning

Today, I’m talking with Jonathan Kanter, the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Antitrust Division at the Department of... more

12 Feb 2024 · 34 minutes
Why EV adoption in the US has hit a roadblock

We’re very excited for today’s episode, because from now on we’ll be delivering you two Decoders every week. On Monday’s... more

08 Feb 2024 · 42 minutes
Platformer’s Casey Newton on surviving the great media collapse and what comes next

Today, I’m talking with Casey Newton, the founder and editor of the Platformer newsletter and co-host of the Hard Fork... more

05 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why Sen. Brian Schatz thinks child safety bills can trump the First Amendment

Today, I’m talking with Senator Brian Schatz, of Hawaii. We joke that Decoder is ultimately a show about org charts,... more

30 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
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On this special episode of Decoder, science educator and YouTuber Hank Green is guest hosting. And the guest? It’s Nilay Patel, who... more