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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse... more

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The risky new way of building mobile broadband networks

In 2019, the Trump administration brokered a deal allowing TMobile to buy Sprint as long as it helped Dish Network... more

09 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
Why Hank Green can’t quit YouTube for TikTok

Today I’m talking to Hank Green. Hank doesn’t need much introduction. In fact, he invited himself on Decoder to talk... more

02 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Rent the Runway CEO Jennifer Hyman thinks clothing rental is inflation-proof

Today we’re talking to Jennifer Hyman, co-founder and CEO of Rent the Runway. Rent the Runway is a a pretty simple... more

26 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Is the metaverse going to suck? A conversation with Matthew Ball

All right, let’s talk about the metaverse.  You probably can’t stop hearing about it. It’s in startup pitches, in earnings reports,... more

19 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
Land of the Giants: Facebook gets a facelift

This week, we're sharing the first episode of Land of the Giants: The Facebook/ Meta Disruption. Long before Mark Zuckerberg... more

14 Jul 2022 · 28 minutes
How arson led to a culture reboot at Traeger, with CEO Jeremy Andrus

Happy Fourth of July to our listeners in the States. Decoder is only a year old, but we’ve decided a... more

04 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
TSA’s chief innovation officer on surveillance, security lines, and surrendering to PreCheck

I’m old enough to remember what it was like to fly before 9/11 — there were no TSA lines, there... more

29 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
How Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius is refocusing for an electric future

Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius became CEO in 2019 but has been working for Mercedes since 1993 in almost every part... more

21 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
How fandom built the internet as we know it, with Kaitlyn Tiffany

The Verge is all about how technology make us feel. Our screens and our systems aren’t inert, or neutral –... more

14 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
What unions could mean for Apple with Zoe Schiffer

Today is Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference, or WWDC. It’s one of the biggest events of the year for Apple, one... more

06 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
How Ukraine’s wide use of cryptocurrency is playing out during the war

Michael is president of the Blockchain Association of Ukraine and founder of the Kuna Exchange, which lets people buy cryptocurrency... more

24 May 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
The videos that don’t work on YouTube and the future of the creator business, with Nebula CEO Dave Wiskus

One of our recurring jokes at The Verge is that every YouTuber eventually makes a video where they talk about... more

17 May 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Vergecast: Google CEO Sundar Pichai on Google I/O 2022

Google I/O was this week and Nilay Patel and David Pierce had a chance to sit down with Google CEO... more

13 May 2022 · 32 minutes
UiPath CEO Daniel Dines thinks automation can fight the great resignation

Today Nilay Patel talking to Daniel Dines, the founder and CEO of UiPath, one of the biggest automation companies in... more

10 May 2022 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
How big companies kill ideas — and how to fight back, with Tony Fadell

Tony Fadell was instrumental in the development of the iPod and iPhone at Apple and then co-founded Nest Labs, which... more

03 May 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
The executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation on government surveillance, Elon Musk, and free speech

Cindy Cohn is the executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, or EFF. If you’re an internet user of a... more

26 Apr 2022 · 52 minutes
A former Foxconn executive tries to explain what went wrong in Wisconsin

Alan Yeung is a professor of entrepreneurship at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the former head of the Foxconn project... more

19 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Chris Dixon thinks web3 is the future of the internet. Is it?

Chris Dixon leads crypto investing at the storied Silicon Valley venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, or a16z. He’s responsible for leading... more

12 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 21 minutes
Is streaming just becoming cable again? Julia Alexander thinks so

Julia Alexander was the perfect guest to come on our show and talk about the state of the streaming industry... more

05 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
Steve Aoki on why he’s a ‘crypto believer’

For this episode, I’m talking to Steve Aoki. He is a superstar DJ, producer, record label owner, and prolific entrepreneur.... more

29 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
How Robinhood is building the future of investing, with chief product officer Aparna Chennapragada

Aparna Chennapragada is the chief product officer at Robinhood, the popular stock and crypto trading app. And we have some... more

22 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
How the EU is fighting tech giants with Margrethe Vestager

Margrethe Vestager is one of the driving forces behind tech regulation worldwide. Appointed as the European Commission’s Commissioner of Competition... more

17 Mar 2022 · 35 minutes
How WordPress and Tumblr are keeping the internet weird, with Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg

Matt Mullenweg is the CEO of Automattic, the company that owns WordPress.com, which he co-founded, and Tumblr, the irrepressible social... more

15 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
The future of computers is only $4 away, with Raspberry Pi CEO Eben Upton

Today I’m talking to Eben Upton, the CEO of Raspberry Pi, a fascinating company that makes beloved tiny hackable computers... more

08 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Inside Sonos' decision to sue Google with CEO Patrick Spence and CLO Eddie Lazarus

This week I sat down with Patrick Spence, the CEO of Sonos, and Eddie Lazarus, his Chief Legal Officer. I wanted... more

01 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Can the law keep up with crypto? With professor Tonya Evans

I’m going to let you in on a Decoder secret: at the end of last year, I tasked our producers... more

22 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
What an NFL coaching scandal can teach tech about diversity

Bärí Williams is a legal and operations advisor to tech companies who focuses on AI and diversity. Her credentials are... more

15 Feb 2022 · 49 minutes
News with a Capital B: CEO Lauren Williams on why we need news for and by Black people

Lauren Williams is the co-founder and CEO of Capital B, a new nonprofit media company dedicated to news for Black... more

08 Feb 2022 · 57 minutes
The business of finding a better job, with Career Karma CEO Ruben Harris

It’s an interesting time to talk to someone in the business of helping people get new jobs — we’re still... more

01 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
7 CEOs and one secretary of Transportation on the future of cars

Regular listeners of Decoder know car CEOs love coming on the show. There is a lot of change in the... more

25 Jan 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Can CEO Herbert Diess reinvent Volkswagen with EVs and software?

Links Dieselgate coverage on The Verge VW vows to build massive electric car charging network across US Electrify America announces doubling of charging... more

18 Jan 2022 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
Almost every smartphone has a Qualcomm chip inside. Where does CEO Cristiano Amon go from here?

Cristiano Amon is the president and CEO of Qualcomm, and he’s always been a relentless cheerleader for what mobile computing... more

11 Jan 2022 · 59 minutes
Pete Buttigieg is racing to keep up with self-driving cars

In this special, Thursday episode of Decoder, Andrew Hawkins spoke with secretary of transportation Pete Butigieg ahead of his speech... more

06 Jan 2022 · 29 minutes
How Logitech bet big on work from home

Logitech is one of those ubiquitous companies — it’s been around since 1981, selling all kinds of important things that... more

21 Dec 2021 · 1 hour,
Can we regulate social media without breaking the First Amendment?

So today I’m talking to Jameel Jaffer, executive director of the The Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, about... more

16 Dec 2021 · 46 minutes
The metaverse is already here — and it’s full of Pokemon, says Niantic CEO John Hanke

John Hanke is the CEO of Niantic, a company that makes the wildly popular Pokemon Go mobile game in partnership... more

14 Dec 2021 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
From a meme to $47 million: ConstitutionDAO, crypto, and the future of crowdfunding

Jonah Erlich is one of the core members of a group called ConstitutionDAO, a group that raised $47 Million to... more

07 Dec 2021 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
How an Excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day

Kat Norton is a Microsoft Excel influencer. She has over a million followers on TikTok and Instagram, where she goes... more

30 Nov 2021 · 52 minutes
Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky prides himself on thinking very differently than other CEOs, and his answers to the Decoder questions... more

16 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 13 minutes
Why charging phones is such a complex business, with Anker CEO Steven Yang

Nilay Patel talks to Steven Yang, the CEO and founder of Anker Innovations. The conversation covers the full stack of... more

09 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Decoder with Nilay Patel
How an Excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day
Decoder with Nilay Patel

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Kat Norton is a Microsoft Excel influencer. She has over a million followers on TikTok and Instagram, where she goes by the... more