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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse... more

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Remix: Google Zero is here — now what?

For nearly 20 years now, the web has been Google’s platform; we’ve all just lived on it. Google is constantly... more

21 Nov 2024 · 34 minutes
Will the world end before I can retire?

Hey everyone, it’s Nilay — Decoder is on a short break this week. We’ll be back with a special live... more

18 Nov 2024 · 45 minutes
How Trump’s second term could be bad for EVs, but great for Tesla

Today we’re talking about Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and Tesla — and I have to say, it feels like the... more

14 Nov 2024 · 35 minutes
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Harvey Mason, Jr is CEO of the Recording Academy, the nonprofit organization most famous for the Grammy Awards. We spoke... more

11 Nov 2024 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Today, we’re talking about work. Specifically, where we work, how our expectations of working remotely were radically changed by the... more

07 Nov 2024 · 39 minutes
Why GM ditched CarPlay, with software boss Baris Cetinok

Today, I’m talking with Baris Cetinok, who is in charge of all the software in the cars that GM makes,... more

04 Nov 2024 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
“It’s the First Amendment, stupid”

Trump and a bunch of billionaires, like Elon Musk, are calling for the FCC to punish TV stations by revoking... more

31 Oct 2024 · 42 minutes
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Today, I’m talking with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky, who is only the second person to be on Decoder three times... more

28 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
The AI arms race to build digital god

Today, we’re going to try and figure out "digital god." I figured we’ve been doing Decoder long enough, let’s just... more

24 Oct 2024 · 46 minutes
Intuit asked us to delete part of this Decoder episode

Today’s episode, well — it’s a ride. I’m talking to Intuit CEO Sasan Goodarzi, who’s built Intuit into a juggernaut... more

21 Oct 2024 · 56 minutes
How influencers are changing advertising with Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi

Today’s episode is a little different: Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi and I recorded this conversation live on stage during advertising... more

17 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Duolingo CEO Luis Von Ahn wants you addicted to learning

Luis von Ahn is the co-founder and CEO of Duolingo. There are lots of opportunities to enhance a product like... more

14 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
The impossible dream of good workplace software

I’m talking with my good friend David Pierce, Vergecast co-host and The Verge’s editor-at-large, about something he spends an ungodly... more

10 Oct 2024 · 50 minutes
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Rabbit’s adorable R1 gadget launched with a lot of hype, but early reviews of the device were universally bad. Now,... more

07 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
The toxic transformation of Warcraft maker Blizzard

Today, I’m talking to Jason Schreier, a Bloomberg journalist and author of the new book Play Nice: The Rise, Fall,... more

03 Oct 2024 · 53 minutes
NBCU's streaming chief isn't worried about you canceling cable

Matt Strauss is the Chairman of Direct-to-Consumer at NBC Universal. That’s a big fancy title that means he’s not only... more

30 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

We have a very special episode of Decoder today. It’s become a tradition every fall to have Verge deputy editor... more

25 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Arc creator Josh Miller on why you need a better browser than Chrome

Today, I’m talking with Josh Miller, co-founder and CEO of The Browser Company, a relatively new software maker that develops... more

23 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown

Google’s in the middle of its antitrust case in just as many months, after it lost a landmark trial in... more

19 Sep 2024 · 35 minutes
How Philips CEO Roy Jakobs is turning the company around after major recall

Today, I’m talking with Roy Jakobs. He’s the CEO of Royal Philips, which makes medical devices ranging from MRI machines... more

16 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Why AI image editing isn’t “just like Photoshop”

We’ve been covering the rise of AI image editing very closely here on Decoder and at The Verge for several... more

12 Sep 2024 · 45 minutes
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Today, I’m talking with Mike Krieger, the new chief product officer at Anthropic, one of the hottest AI companies in... more

09 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
How the Wayback Machine is fighting linkrot

The web has a problem: huge chunks of it keep going offline. The web isn’t static, parts of it sometimes... more

05 Sep 2024 · 44 minutes
The AI election deepfakes have arrived

Decoder is off this week for a short end-of-summer break. We’ll be back with both our interview and explainer episodes... more

29 Aug 2024 · 45 minutes
Disney Is a Tech Company?

Decoder is off this week for a short end-of-summer break. We’ll be back with both our interview and explainer episodes... more

26 Aug 2024 · 42 minutes
How The Onion is saving itself from the digital media death spiral

The Onion is a comedy institution — and like everything else in media, it went on a pure nightmare hell... more

22 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke says the AI industry needs competition to thrive

Today I’m talking with Thomas Dohmke, the CEO of GitHub. GitHub is the platform for managing code – but since... more

19 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
What's next for the controversial 'child safety' internet bill

There’s a major internet speech regulation currently making its way through Congress, and it has a really good chance of... more

15 Aug 2024 · 42 minutes
Replika CEO Eugenia Kuyda says it’s okay if we end up marrying AI chatbots

Today, I’m talking with Replika founder and CEO Eugenia Kuyda, and I will just tell you right away, we get... more

12 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
DOJ antitrust chief is ‘overjoyed’ after Google monopoly verdict

Today, I’m talking to Jonathan Kanter, the assistant attorney general for antitrust at the United States Department of Justice. This... more

08 Aug 2024 · 47 minutes
Booking CEO Glenn Fogel wants you to take out your travel frustrations on AI chatbots

Today, I’m talking with Glenn Fogel, the CEO of Booking Holdings, which owns a large portfolio of familiar travel brands:... more

05 Aug 2024 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
AI has a climate problem — but so does all of tech

Every time we talk about AI, we get one big piece of feedback that I really want to dive into:... more

01 Aug 2024 · 36 minutes
Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber wants your next mouse to last forever

Today, I’m talking with Hanneke Faber, the CEO of Logitech. Hanneke’s still pretty fresh to the role: She joined the... more

29 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
The Supreme Court ruling that could kill net neutrality

The Supreme Court has just taken on the entire idea of the US administrative state — and the Court is... more

25 Jul 2024 · 38 minutes
Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe says too many carmakers are copying Tesla

Today, I’m talking with Rivian founder and CEO RJ Scaringe. RJ was on the show last September when we chatted... more

22 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
What happened to the metaverse?

This week I’m talking to Matthew Ball, who was last on the show in 2022 to talk about his book “The... more

18 Jul 2024 · 44 minutes
Biden’s top tech advisor on why AI safety is a “today problem”

Today, I’m talking with Arati Prabhakar, the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. That’s a... more

15 Jul 2024 · 1 hour,
Why The Atlantic signed a deal with OpenAI

Today I’m talking to Nicholas Thompson, the CEO of The Atlantic. I was really excited to talk to Nick. Like... more

11 Jul 2024 · 51 minutes
Canva CEO Melanie Perkins is happy to provide designers alternatives to Adobe

Canva got its start more than a decade ago as a different form of disruptive tech for creatives. It’s a... more

08 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
How Big Green Egg CEO Dan Gertsacov is getting zoomers into the cult of kamado cooking

It’s almost the Fourth of July, and that means it’s time for our annual grilling episode. This year, I’m talking... more

01 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
The rise of shadow lobbying and its influence on decades of US policy

Today, we’re talking about politics and lobbying in America. It’s hard to imagine a time when the influence of big... more

27 Jun 2024 · 45 minutes
Netflix co-CEO Greg Peters on the streamer's shifting culture and where ads, AI, and games fit in

Today, I’m talking with Greg Peters, the co-CEO of Netflix. I caught up with Greg while he was at the... more

24 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Inside the players and politics of the AI industry

We’ve got a special episode of the show today – I was traveling last week, so Verge deputy editor Alex... more

20 Jun 2024 · 45 minutes
Why Tubi CEO Anjali Sud thinks free TV can win again

Tubi is a free and very rapidly growing streaming TV platform — according to Nielsen, it had an average of... more

17 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Remix: How private equity took over everything

Private equity is a simple concept — a PE firm uses some combination of money and debt to buy a... more

13 Jun 2024 · 39 minutes
AI will make money sooner than you think, says Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez

Cohere is one of the buzziest AI startups around right now. It's not making consumer products; it's focused on the... more

10 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Why the video game industry is such a mess

The art of video game design is flourishing, but it feels like a really grim time to be in the... more

06 Jun 2024 · 37 minutes
Zoom CEO Eric Yuan wants AI clones in meetings

Today, I’m talking with Zoom CEO Eric Yuan — and let me tell you, this conversation is nothing like what... more

03 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Google Zero is here. Now what?

For nearly 20 years now, the web has been Google’s platform; we’ve all just lived on it. I think of... more

30 May 2024 · 27 minutes
How the FBI built its own smartphone company to hack the criminal underworld

Today, I’m talking with Joseph Cox, one of the best cybersecurity reporters around and a co-founder of the new media... more

23 May 2024 · 42 minutes
Google's Sundar Pichai on AI-powered search and the future of the web

Today, I’m talking to Google CEO Sundar Pichai, who joined the show the day after the big Google I/O developer... more

20 May 2024 · 44 minutes
TikTok's big bet to fight the ban bill

Last week, TikTok filed a lawsuit against the US government claiming the divest-or-ban law is unconstitutional — a case it... more

16 May 2024 · 46 minutes
Why Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen is confident we'll all adapt to AI

Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen has been at the top of my list of people I’ve wanted to talk to for... more

13 May 2024 · 1 hour,
Why the tech industry can’t crack the smart home

Today, we’re going to talk about the smart home — one of the oldest, most important, and most challenging dreams... more

09 May 2024 · 40 minutes
Polestar CEO Thomas Ingenlath on life after Volvo and weathering the EV slowdown

Today, I’m talking with Polestar CEO Thomas Ingenlath, whom I first interviewed on the show back in 2021. Those were... more

06 May 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Understanding the chaos at Tesla

Today, Verge transportation editor Andy Hawkins and I are going to try and figure out Tesla. I said try —... more

02 May 2024 · 39 minutes
Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius explains why EVs are still the future — but Apple's next-gen CarPlay isn't

A lot has changed since the last time Ola was on Decoder. Back then, he said Mercedes would have an... more

29 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why the TikTok ban won't solve the US's online privacy problems

Today, we’re talking about the brand-new TikTok ban — and how years of Congressional inaction on a federal privacy law... more

25 Apr 2024 · 47 minutes
Discord CEO Jason Citron makes the case for a smaller, more private internet

Today, I’m talking to Jason Citron, the co-founder and CEO of Discord, the gaming-focused voice and chat app. You might... more

22 Apr 2024 · 58 minutes
Disney just fought off a shareholder revolt — but the clock’s still ticking

Today, we're talking about Disney, the massive activist investor revolt it just fought off, and what happens next in the... more

18 Apr 2024 · 42 minutes
Dropbox CEO Drew Houston wants you to embrace AI and remote work

At the absolute most basic, Dropbox is cloud storage for your stuff — but that puts it at the nexus... more

15 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
The rise and fall of Vice Media

Today we’re talking about Vice, the media company: Where it came from, what it did, and, ultimately, why it collapsed... more

11 Apr 2024 · 43 minutes
Why Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince is the internet’s unlikely defender

Cloudflare is an infrastructure provider basically protecting more than 20% of the entire web from bad actors. When everything is... more

08 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 19 minutes
Why Nintendo sued a Switch emulator out of existence

Hello, and welcome to Decoder. This is David Pierce, editor-at-large at The Verge and co-host of The Vergecast, subbing in... more

04 Apr 2024 · 43 minutes
Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar on culture, acquisitions, and how big 'small business' really is

Today, I’m talking to Intuit Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar, who took over as CEO in 2022 after a pretty rough... more

01 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Can you patent a pizza?

Hey everyone it’s Nilay – I’m on vacation this week, so the Decoder team is taking a short break. We’ll... more

28 Mar 2024 · 52 minutes
Federation is the future of social media, says Bluesky CEO Jay Graber

Today, I’m talking to Jay Graber, the CEO of Bluesky Social, which is a decentralized competitor to Meta’s Threads, Mastodon,... more

25 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
How Europe’s Digital Markets Act is reshaping Big Tech

Both the EU and US have spent the past decade looking at Big Tech and saying, "someone should do something!"... more

21 Mar 2024 · 32 minutes
Figma CEO Dylan Field is optimistic about the future and AI

We’ve got a fun one today — I talked to Figma CEO Dylan Field in front of a live audience... more

18 Mar 2024 · 53 minutes
Why Google Search feels like it’s gotten worse

If you’ve been listening to Decoder or the Vergecast for a while, you know that I am obsessed with Google... more

14 Mar 2024 · 39 minutes
How to save culture from the algorithms, with Filterworld author Kyle Chayka

Today, I’m talking to Kyle Chayka, a staff writer for The New Yorker, a regular contributor to The Verge, and... more

11 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Why people are falling in love with AI chatbots

Our Thursday episodes are all about big topics in the news, and this week we’re wrapping up our short series... more

07 Mar 2024 · 40 minutes
Guest host Hank Green makes Nilay Patel explain why websites have a future

On this special episode of Decoder, science educator and YouTuber Hank Green is guest hosting. And the guest? It’s Nilay... more

04 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
AI deepfakes are cheap, easy, and coming for the 2024 election

Our new Thursday episodes of Decoder are all about deep dives into big topics in the news, and this week... more

29 Feb 2024 · 41 minutes
Crunchyroll President Rahul Purini on how anime took over the world

Today, I’m talking with Rahul Purini, the president of Crunchyroll, a streaming service focused entirely on anime — and really,... more

26 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Is the Apple Vision Pro All That?

The Decoder team is off this week. We’ll be back next week with both the interview and the new explainer... more

22 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
How AI copyright lawsuits could make the whole industry go extinct

Our new Thursday episodes are all about deep dives into big topics in the news, and for the next few... more

15 Feb 2024 · 40 minutes
DOJ’s Jonathan Kanter says the antitrust fight against Big Tech is just beginning

Today, I’m talking with Jonathan Kanter, the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Antitrust Division at the Department of... more

12 Feb 2024 · 34 minutes
Why EV adoption in the US has hit a roadblock

We’re very excited for today’s episode, because from now on we’ll be delivering you two Decoders every week. On Monday’s... more

08 Feb 2024 · 42 minutes
Platformer’s Casey Newton on surviving the great media collapse and what comes next

Today, I’m talking with Casey Newton, the founder and editor of the Platformer newsletter and co-host of the Hard Fork... more

05 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why Sen. Brian Schatz thinks child safety bills can trump the First Amendment

Today, I’m talking with Senator Brian Schatz, of Hawaii. We joke that Decoder is ultimately a show about org charts,... more

30 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Rep. Ro Khanna on what it will take for Congress to regulate AI, privacy, and social media

Today, I’m talking with Representative Ro Khanna, a Democrat from California. He’s been in Congress for eight years now, representing... more

23 Jan 2024 · 54 minutes
How Adobe is managing the AI copyright dilemma, with general counsel Dana Rao

Today, I'm talking to Dana Rao, who is General Counsel and Chief Trust Officer at Adobe. Now, if you're a... more

09 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
How Donald Trump and Elon Musk killed Twitter, with Marty Baron and Zoe Schiffer

2023 will go down as the year that Elon Musk killed Twitter. First he did it in a big way,... more

21 Dec 2023 · 39 minutes
Why Flexport CEO Ryan Petersen took his company back

Ryan Petersen is the founder and CEO of Flexport, which makes software to optimize shipping everything from huge containers to... more

19 Dec 2023 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
USDS head Mina Hsiang wants Big Tech’s best minds to help fix the government

The US Digital Service has a fascinating structure: it comprises nearly 250 people, all of whom serve two-year stints developing... more

12 Dec 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing

IBM made some announcements this week about its plans for the next ten years of quantum computing: there are new... more

05 Dec 2023 · 55 minutes
Wix CEO Avishai Abrahami isn’t worried AI will kill the web

Today I’m talking with Avishai Abrahami, the CEO of Wix. You might know Wix as a website builder. It’s a... more

28 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Chaos at OpenAI: What happened to Sam Altman, and what's next

What actually happened at OpenAI in the last three days? Decoder host and Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks with Verge... more

20 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Volvo CEO Jim Rowan thinks dropping CarPlay is a mistake

Today, I’m talking to Jim Rowan, the CEO of Volvo Cars. Now, Jim’s only been at Volvo for a short... more

14 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Barack Obama on AI, free speech, and the future of the internet

We’ve got a good one today. I’m talking to former President Barack Obama about AI, social networks, and how to... more

07 Nov 2023 · 47 minutes
AI is on a collision course with the music industry. Reservoir's Golnar Khosrowshahi thinks there’s a way through it

Today I'm talking with Golnar Khosrowshahi, the founder and CEO of Reservoir Media, a newer record label that I think... more

31 Oct 2023 · 56 minutes
Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig on why AI and social media are causing a free speech crisis for the internet

Today, I’m talking to internet policy legend Lawrence Lessig. He's been teaching law for more than 30 years, and is... more

24 Oct 2023 · 54 minutes
Clearview AI and the end of privacy, with author Kashmir Hill

Today, I’m talking to Kashmir Hill, a New York Times reporter whose new book, Your Face Belongs to Us: A... more

17 Oct 2023 · 1 hour, 1 minute
CEO David Baszucki's mission to make Roblox a billion-player platform

Today we’re bringing you the last of our live-on-stage interviews from the 2023 Code Conference. Verge deputy editor Alex Heath... more

12 Oct 2023 · 31 minutes
Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe on ramping up R1T production and competing with the Cybertruck

We’ve got another interview from the Code Conference today. My friend and co-host, CNBC’s Julia Boorstin, and I had a chance... more

10 Oct 2023 · 40 minutes
Getty Images CEO Craig Peters has a plan to defend photography from AI

Last week, when I was co-hosting the Code Conference, I got to talk with Getty Images CEO Craig Peters. The... more

05 Oct 2023 · 34 minutes
Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI and art will coexist in the future

I co-hosted the Code Conference last week, and today’s episode is one of my favorite conversations from the show: Microsoft... more

03 Oct 2023 · 44 minutes
'The Android of agriculture': Monarch Tractor CEO Praveen Penmetsa on the future of farming

We spent a lot of time here on Decoder talking about electric vehicles and the future of cars and we’re... more

30 Sep 2023 · 28 minutes
AMD CEO Lisa Su on the AI revolution

Today, we’re bringing you something a little different. The Code Conference was this week, and we had a great time... more

29 Sep 2023 · 35 minutes
X CEO Linda Yaccarino defends Elon Musk, and herself, at Code 2023

Today, we have a special episode for you. The Code Conference wrapped up this week, and the finale included a... more

29 Sep 2023 · 42 minutes
Mark Zuckerberg on Threads, the future of AI, and Quest 3

What motivates Mark Zuckerberg these days? It's a question Decoder guest host Alex Heath posed at the end of his... more

27 Sep 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
After 10 years covering startups, former TechCrunch EIC Matthew Panzarino tells us what's next

TechCrunch is one of the most important trade publications in the world of tech and startups, and its annual Disrupt... more

19 Sep 2023 · 51 minutes
More than Sally Ride: Loren Grush explains how NASA’s first women astronauts changed space

The Six: The Untold Story of America's First Women Astronauts, from longtime space reporter and Verge alum Loren Grush, is... more

12 Sep 2023 · 57 minutes
Biometrics? Bring it on: Why Okta’s Jameeka Green Aaron wants passwords to go away

Okta is a big company, a Wall Street SaaS darling. For most of us, it's the thing we have to... more

29 Aug 2023 · 1 hour, 13 minutes
Fandom runs some of the biggest communities on the web. Can CEO Perkins Miller keep them happy?

Perkins Miller is the CEO of Fandom, which both hosts thousands of wikis for everything from Disney to Grand Theft... more

22 Aug 2023 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Land of the Giants: Tesla vs. The Competition

We have a little surprise in the feed today: An episode of "Land of the Giants," which is all about... more

15 Aug 2023 · 38 minutes
There's no AI without the cloud, says AWS CEO Adam Selipsky

AWS is quite a story. It started as an experiment almost 20 years ago with Amazon trying to sell its... more

08 Aug 2023 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Rewind: Can Mastodon seize the moment from Twitter?

ActivityPub is back in the news, thanks to Meta’s Threads launch and Elon’s continued immolation of Twitter — now X.... more

25 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 21 minutes
Why would anyone make a website in 2023? Squarespace CEO Anthony Casalena has some ideas

Today I’m talking to Anthony Casalena, the founder and CEO of Squarespace, the ubiquitous web hosting and design company. If... more

18 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Inside Google’s big AI shuffle — and how it plans to stay competitive, with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis

Today, I’m talking to Demis Hassabis, the CEO of Google DeepMind, the newly created division of Google responsible for AI... more

10 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Why CEO David Baszucki is ready for Roblox to grow up

Roblox has 66 million daily users, and people spent 14 billion collective hours on Roblox in just Q1 of 2023.... more

27 Jun 2023 · 54 minutes
Gary Vaynerchuk is ‘petrified’ of Slack

If you’ve spent more than two minutes somewhere on social media, you have probably come across Gary Vaynerchuk. For years... more

21 Jun 2023 · 50 minutes
Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys”R”Us. Here’s why that matters.

The idea behind private equity or PE is simple: a private equity firm gathers up a bunch of cash, raises... more

13 Jun 2023 · 1 hour,
SiriusXM’s 360 strategy with CEO Jennifer Witz

Jennifer Witz is the CEO of SiriusXM. You probably know the company as the satellite radio brand in virtually every... more

06 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on AI copilots, disagreeing with OpenAI, and Sydney making a comeback

Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott oversees the company's AI efforts, including its big partnership with OpenAI and ChatGPT. Kevin and I... more

23 May 2023 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Recode Media: Inside the AI Gold Rush

Today – we’ve got a treat for you. We’re going to run a special episode from our friends over at... more

16 May 2023 · 50 minutes
Exclusive: Google’s Sundar Pichai talks Search, AI, and dancing with Microsoft

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I’m Nilay Patel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about... more

12 May 2023 · 42 minutes
I can't make products just for 41 year old tech founders," Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on taking it back to the basics

Brian Chesky, the co-founder and CEO of Airbnb, was previously on the show in 2021. Back then, Airbnb was betting... more

09 May 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
The social media age for news is over. Former BuzzFeed News editor Ben Smith on what’s next

Ben Smith is the former and founding editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed News, the founder and editor-in-chief of Semafor, and the author... more

02 May 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Bitcoin is still the future of payments, says Lightspark CEO David Marcus

We’ve got a special episode with Alex Heath, deputy editor at The Verge and a familiar host for Decoder listeners,... more

25 Apr 2023 · 50 minutes
Brightdrop isn’t just selling electric vans — it's redesigning delivery

Travis Katz is the CEO of BrightDrop, a subsidiary of GM that makes electrified delivery vans with an eye toward... more

18 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Is Substack Notes a ‘Twitter clone’? We asked CEO Chris Best.

It is fair to say that Substack has had a dramatic week and a half or so, and I talked... more

13 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Watching Silicon Valley Bank melt down from the front row with Brex CEO Henrique Dubugras

Brex CEO Henrique Dubugras found himself playing an important role during the Silicon Valley Bank collapse. Brex is what you might... more

04 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
The surprisingly complex business of toys, with Hasbro CEO Chris Cocks

Chris Cocks is the CEO of Hasbro, a company that just turned 100 this year. Hasbro is a huge company,... more

31 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Can Mastodon seize the moment from Twitter?

Today I’m talking to Mastodon CEO Eugen Rochko. Mastodon is the open-source, decentralized competitor to Twitter, and it’s where a... more

28 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
How to play the long game, with New York Times CEO Meredith Kopit Levien

Meredith Kopit Levien is the CEO of The New York Times, which is perhaps the most famous journalism organization in... more

23 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Taylor Swift vs. Ronald Reagan: The Ticketmaster story

This special episode dives deep on Taylor Swift, Ticketmaster, and how a handful of policy changes in the 1980s led... more

21 Mar 2023 · 33 minutes
‘The Goliath is Amazon’: after 100 years, Barnes & Noble wants to go back to its indie roots

In this installment of our Centennial Series on companies that are over 100 years old, we are talking to Barnes... more

16 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Why Spotify wants to look like TikTok, with co-president Gustav Söderström

Gustav Söderström has worked at Spotify for a long time; his first big project was leading the launch of its... more

14 Mar 2023 · 1 hour,
Can Xerox reinvent itself for another 100 years?

Intro: Steve Bandrowczak, the CEO of Xerox, an iconic company that got started all the way back in 1906 as a... more

09 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
How Reddit is getting simpler — and dealing with TikTok, with chief product officer Pali Bhat

Pali Bhat joined Reddit from Google about a year ago — he’s actually Reddit’s first-ever chief product officer, which is... more

07 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Podcasting? Radio? It’s all one big opportunity for iHeartMedia digital CEO Conal Byrne

We taped this episode live at Hot Pod Summit. That’s our conference for the podcast industry. We have a whole... more

28 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Erase browser history: can AI reset the browser battle?

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I’m Nilay Patel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about... more

14 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Microsoft thinks AI can beat Google at search — CEO Satya Nadella explains why

I’m coming to you from Microsoft’s campus in Redmond, where just a few hours ago, Microsoft announced that the next... more

08 Feb 2023 · 24 minutes
How HBO’s creatives survived corporate chaos

HBO started as an experiment. It was a way to get people to switch from getting TV over broadcast antennas... more

07 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Inside the global battle over chip manufacturing

A few weeks ago, President Biden was in the Netherlands, where he asked the Dutch government to restrict export from... more

31 Jan 2023 · 53 minutes
Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20

I have this theory that music is usually about five years ahead of the rest of media in terms of... more

17 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
Breaking free from big tech and big content with authors Cory Doctorow and Rebecca Giblin

Last year I spoke with Cory Doctorow and Rebecca Giblin about their new book, Chokepoint Capitalism. It’s a book about... more

10 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 30 minutes
‘We might be wrong, but we’re not confused’: how Tomer Cohen, chief product officer at LinkedIn, figures out what works best

Tomer Cohen is the chief product officer at LinkedIn, and actually, I talked to Tomer twice. Here’s a little secret... more

20 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
How to buy a social network, with Tumblr CEO Matt Mullenweg

We have to talk about Twitter, right? Elon Musk bought it. He’s making all these changes, and he’s realizing that... more

13 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 42 minutes
Disney’s CEO drama explained, with Julia Alexander

Today, we need to talk about Bob. Two Bobs, actually: Bob Iger, the former and now current CEO of Disney,... more

06 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
How Bose compete with AirPods — and why it’s in more cars than ever, with CEO Lila Snyder

Bose is one of the most recognizable audio brands in the world: it was famous for the Wave radio in... more

29 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
On with Kara Swisher: Can Chris Licht Turn CNN Around?

Chris Licht faces an uphill battle at CNN. He got the CEO gig in the midst of a prickly merger... more

22 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Phil Spencer really wants you to know that native Call of Duty will stay on PlayStation

Phil Spencer, CEO of Microsoft Gaming, is in charge of Xbox and all the game studios that Microsoft has acquired... more

15 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Why Figma is selling to Adobe for $20 billion, with CEO Dylan Field

Dylan Field is the co-founder and CEO of Figma, which makes a very popular design tool that allows designers and... more

08 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
The mystery of Biden’s deadlocked FCC

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is currently short a commissioner, and the Biden Administration and Senate Democrats just can't seem... more

03 Nov 2022 · 41 minutes
Why Amazon VP Steve Boom just made the entire music catalog free with Prime

I love covering the music industry, but over the past 10 years I’ve found that it’s one of the most... more

01 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Never pay the ransom — a cybersecurity CEO explains why

Steve Cagle is the CEO of Clearwater Compliance, which is a cybersecurity firm focused on the healthcare industry. Basically, they... more

27 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
The people who make your apps go to Stack Overflow for answers – here's how it works

Today I'm talking to Prashanth Chandrasekar the CEO of Stack Overflow – a highly specialized kind of social network, with a... more

25 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why Signal won’t compromise on encryption, with president Meredith Whittaker

Meredith Whittaker is the president of Signal, the popular messaging app that offers encrypted communication. You might recognize Meredith’s name... more

18 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Mark Zuckerberg on the Quest Pro, future of the metaverse, and more

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg joined The Verge’s deputy editor Alex Heath for an in-depth conversation about the company’s new high-end, mixed reality... more

11 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Pat Gelsinger came back to turn Intel around – here’s how it’s going

Today I'm talking to Pat Gelsinger, the CEO of Intel. I’ve been excited to have this conversation for a very... more

04 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
How Arm conquered the chip market without making a single chip, with CEO Rene Haas

One of the more interesting quirks of the modern tech world is that there’s a really important company at the... more

27 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Can software simplify the supply chain? Ryan Petersen thinks so

Ryan Petersen, is the CEO of Flexport, ac ompany that builds software that integrates all the different shipping vendor systems... more

20 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Everyone knows what YouTube is. Few know how it really works.

Today, I’m talking to Mark Bergen, a reporter at Bloomberg and the author of a new book about YouTube called.... more

13 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Rewind: How big companies kill ideas — and how to fight back, with Tony Fadell

This episode was originally published on May 3rd, 2022. Tony Fadell was instrumental in the development of the iPod and... more

06 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
How the head of Facebook plans to compete with TikTok and win back Gen Z

We’ve got a special episode of Decoder today – an interview between Verge deputy editor Alex Heath and Meta’s Tom... more

30 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Advertising is everywhere. Wieden+Kennedy CEO Neal Arthur explains how it works

One thing that strikes me, in all these episodes of Decoder, is how little any of us really pay attention... more

23 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
How Selena Gomez's Rare Beauty goes viral, with CMO Katie Welch

Katie Welch is the Chief Marketing Officer of Rare Beauty — the beauty products company founded by superstar musician and actress... more

16 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
The risky new way of building mobile broadband networks

In 2019, the Trump administration brokered a deal allowing TMobile to buy Sprint as long as it helped Dish Network... more

09 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
Why Hank Green can’t quit YouTube for TikTok

Today I’m talking to Hank Green. Hank doesn’t need much introduction. In fact, he invited himself on Decoder to talk... more

02 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Rent the Runway CEO Jennifer Hyman thinks clothing rental is inflation-proof

Today we’re talking to Jennifer Hyman, co-founder and CEO of Rent the Runway. Rent the Runway is a a pretty simple... more

26 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Is the metaverse going to suck? A conversation with Matthew Ball

All right, let’s talk about the metaverse.  You probably can’t stop hearing about it. It’s in startup pitches, in earnings reports,... more

19 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
Land of the Giants: Facebook gets a facelift

This week, we're sharing the first episode of Land of the Giants: The Facebook/ Meta Disruption. Long before Mark Zuckerberg... more

14 Jul 2022 · 28 minutes
How arson led to a culture reboot at Traeger, with CEO Jeremy Andrus

Happy Fourth of July to our listeners in the States. Decoder is only a year old, but we’ve decided a... more

04 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
TSA’s chief innovation officer on surveillance, security lines, and surrendering to PreCheck

I’m old enough to remember what it was like to fly before 9/11 — there were no TSA lines, there... more

29 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
How Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius is refocusing for an electric future

Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius became CEO in 2019 but has been working for Mercedes since 1993 in almost every part... more

21 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
How fandom built the internet as we know it, with Kaitlyn Tiffany

The Verge is all about how technology make us feel. Our screens and our systems aren’t inert, or neutral –... more

14 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
What unions could mean for Apple with Zoe Schiffer

Today is Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference, or WWDC. It’s one of the biggest events of the year for Apple, one... more

06 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
How Ukraine’s wide use of cryptocurrency is playing out during the war

Michael is president of the Blockchain Association of Ukraine and founder of the Kuna Exchange, which lets people buy cryptocurrency... more

24 May 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
The videos that don’t work on YouTube and the future of the creator business, with Nebula CEO Dave Wiskus

One of our recurring jokes at The Verge is that every YouTuber eventually makes a video where they talk about... more

17 May 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Vergecast: Google CEO Sundar Pichai on Google I/O 2022

Google I/O was this week and Nilay Patel and David Pierce had a chance to sit down with Google CEO... more

13 May 2022 · 32 minutes
UiPath CEO Daniel Dines thinks automation can fight the great resignation

Today Nilay Patel talking to Daniel Dines, the founder and CEO of UiPath, one of the biggest automation companies in... more

10 May 2022 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
How big companies kill ideas — and how to fight back, with Tony Fadell

Tony Fadell was instrumental in the development of the iPod and iPhone at Apple and then co-founded Nest Labs, which... more

03 May 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
The executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation on government surveillance, Elon Musk, and free speech

Cindy Cohn is the executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, or EFF. If you’re an internet user of a... more

26 Apr 2022 · 52 minutes
A former Foxconn executive tries to explain what went wrong in Wisconsin

Alan Yeung is a professor of entrepreneurship at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the former head of the Foxconn project... more

19 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Chris Dixon thinks web3 is the future of the internet. Is it?

Chris Dixon leads crypto investing at the storied Silicon Valley venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, or a16z. He’s responsible for leading... more

12 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 21 minutes
Is streaming just becoming cable again? Julia Alexander thinks so

Julia Alexander was the perfect guest to come on our show and talk about the state of the streaming industry... more

05 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
Steve Aoki on why he’s a ‘crypto believer’

For this episode, I’m talking to Steve Aoki. He is a superstar DJ, producer, record label owner, and prolific entrepreneur.... more

29 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
How Robinhood is building the future of investing, with chief product officer Aparna Chennapragada

Aparna Chennapragada is the chief product officer at Robinhood, the popular stock and crypto trading app. And we have some... more

22 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
How the EU is fighting tech giants with Margrethe Vestager

Margrethe Vestager is one of the driving forces behind tech regulation worldwide. Appointed as the European Commission’s Commissioner of Competition... more

17 Mar 2022 · 35 minutes
How WordPress and Tumblr are keeping the internet weird, with Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg

Matt Mullenweg is the CEO of Automattic, the company that owns WordPress.com, which he co-founded, and Tumblr, the irrepressible social... more

15 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
The future of computers is only $4 away, with Raspberry Pi CEO Eben Upton

Today I’m talking to Eben Upton, the CEO of Raspberry Pi, a fascinating company that makes beloved tiny hackable computers... more

08 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Inside Sonos' decision to sue Google with CEO Patrick Spence and CLO Eddie Lazarus

This week I sat down with Patrick Spence, the CEO of Sonos, and Eddie Lazarus, his Chief Legal Officer. I wanted... more

01 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Can the law keep up with crypto? With professor Tonya Evans

I’m going to let you in on a Decoder secret: at the end of last year, I tasked our producers... more

22 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
What an NFL coaching scandal can teach tech about diversity

Bärí Williams is a legal and operations advisor to tech companies who focuses on AI and diversity. Her credentials are... more

15 Feb 2022 · 49 minutes
News with a Capital B: CEO Lauren Williams on why we need news for and by Black people

Lauren Williams is the co-founder and CEO of Capital B, a new nonprofit media company dedicated to news for Black... more

08 Feb 2022 · 57 minutes
The business of finding a better job, with Career Karma CEO Ruben Harris

It’s an interesting time to talk to someone in the business of helping people get new jobs — we’re still... more

01 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
7 CEOs and one secretary of Transportation on the future of cars

Regular listeners of Decoder know car CEOs love coming on the show. There is a lot of change in the... more

25 Jan 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
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Today I’m talking to Eben Upton, the CEO of Raspberry Pi, a fascinating company that makes beloved tiny hackable computers that are... more