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Disorder
Disorder
Goalhanger & Global Enduring Disorder Ltd

Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s most powerful... more

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Ep88. Syria: New Order or Fresh Chaos?

Assad has fallen! The Tyrant is no more! Long live the revolution!    There has been a genuine outpouring of jubilation among... more

11 Dec 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Ep.87 Syria, Georgia, South Korea, France, Ireland, Hunter Biden, oh my

This week was par for the course… We are living through Peak Disorder. Two democratic capital cities were convulsed by... more

09 Dec 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Ep86. Is Democracy Dead? Or actually alive and kicking?

Do elections work anymore? 2024 was the biggest year of elections in human history. Major contests were held in the... more

03 Dec 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Ep85. Thanksgiving Special: Taiwan, Identity Politics, and Can Taylor Swift Order the Disorder?

Amidst post-election malaise and seasonal depression, Jason is thankful for the Mega-Ordering listeners who sent in their questions to his... more

28 Nov 2024 · 48 minutes
Ep84. Through the Looking Glass: Trump’s Appointments and Can Starmer do Global Leadership?

We have crossed through the looking glass – Up is Down, Disorder is Order, Vice is Virtue, Felony is a... more

26 Nov 2024 · 49 minutes
Ep83. Trump Derangement Syndrome with the Two Matts

The Post-Mortem autopsy continues. How could liberal elites have had eight and half years to prepare for the twenty thousand... more

19 Nov 2024 · 40 minutes
Ep82. Fool me twice: Shame on me

The Disorderer-in-Chief is now President-Elect. We can’t say we didn’t see it coming. In fact, we predicted on the pod... more

12 Nov 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Ep81. Disorder Trumped Order

After a night of trepidation at Jason’s watch party the results came in faster and more furiously than expected… Trump... more

06 Nov 2024 · 1 hour,
Ep80. What does the Post-Election Future hold?

What do professional ‘futurists’ think about global disorder? With our current world seemingly in never ending Disorder that won’t be... more

05 Nov 2024 · 40 minutes
Ep79. Trick or Treat? Spooky Trump or Visionless Harris?

To celebrate Halloween, Jason goes on the Keen On show hosted by friend of the Disorder Pod, Andrew Keen, to... more

31 Oct 2024 · 47 minutes
Ep78. China’s Economic Disorder: Overproduction, Oversupply, Overcapacity, oh my!

Whether it is solar panels or steel, clothes or tech, many of the world’s manufactures are made in China. But... more

29 Oct 2024 · 54 minutes
Ep.77. The System is Rigged: Conspiracy theories and the revenge of the losers

From immigrants eating pets, to Jewish space lasers starting wildfires, to 9/11 ‘trutherism’, our disordered world – and particularly the... more

22 Oct 2024 · 56 minutes
Ep76. Can Sanctions help us Order the Disorder?

Following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the West initiated the most comprehensive economic war in human history. The... more

17 Oct 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Ep75. What can Backgammon teach us about Ordering the Disorder?

What can games of skill and chance, of risk and reward – like Poker and Backgammon– teach diplomats, policymakers, and... more

15 Oct 2024 · 38 minutes
Ep74. Part2: The Case for Palestinian Statehood

(This episode flows from Ep 73 Part I: Commemorating the October 7 Massacre – please listen to it first if... more

08 Oct 2024 · 39 minutes
Ep73. Part1: Commemorating the October 7 Massacre

A year ago today, the Middle East and the world changed forever. Hamas terrorists and Gazan civilians broke through the... more

07 Oct 2024 · 54 minutes
Ep72. JD Vance vs Tim Walz: A gentlemanly Disorderer in a crisp suit vs a folksy Midwestern Orderer

Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate between Republican JD Vance and Democrat Tim Walz was a breath of fresh air in some... more

03 Oct 2024 · 50 minutes
Ep71. Nasrallah Killed in Lebanon – What’s Next?

Over the weekend, Israel confirmed that they had killed Hezbollah’s charismatic leader – and terrorist master mind --  Hassan Nasrallah.... more

01 Oct 2024 · 48 minutes
Ep70. Peak Disorder in Bangladesh

‘Peak Disorder’ is Jason’s coinage for: the democratic world’s inability to exert ordering capacity to respond to new challenges except... more

26 Sep 2024 · 55 minutes
Ep69. Life in North Korea, Kidnapping Stories, and Why Symbolism Matters with Dictators -- Jordan Harbinger on Tyrants and Disorderers

What does getting kidnapped in Mexico City have in common with taking Western backpackers on tours of North Korean? Each... more

24 Sep 2024 · 50 minutes
Ep68. Disorder’s One Year Anniversary

To celebrate Disorder’s One Year Anniversary, Alex and Jason recap the shows Greatest Hits, share their thoughts on their favourite... more

19 Sep 2024 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Ep67. Dictators’ Disordering Quest for Internal Security

From Putin to Qadhafi, from Mohammed bin Salman to Trump… our current era of Enduring Disorder is filled with many... more

17 Sep 2024 · 57 minutes
Ep66. Harris taunts Trump; the Disorderer implodes, Order appears to prevail

Jason and Alex explain the implications for global order of the first, and possibly onl,y 2024 Presidential Candidates Debate btw... more

12 Sep 2024 · 54 minutes
Ep65. Why is Harris not appealing to middle - aged white men? Plus listener questions on migration, the NHS, and Ukraine

This week, Jason and Alex catchup after an eventful summer. Alex discusses her main takeaways from her trip to Tbilisi... more

10 Sep 2024 · 59 minutes
Ep64. Part 2: Nationalism – Can it be reclaimed for Order?

Harvey Whitehouse, author of Inheritance: The Evolutionary Origins of the Modern World, rejoins Jason Pack for part 2 of their... more

03 Sep 2024 · 42 minutes
Ep63. Part 1: Does our biology facilitate our Global Disorder?

Over the last two decades the seemingly ‘connecting’ phenomena of globalization and the internet have not made human communities more... more

27 Aug 2024 · 47 minutes
Ep62. Celebrating ONE MILLION Downloads

To celebrate ONE MILLION downloads (thanks mega orderers!), Jason is joined by his best friend and lecturer at the Swedish... more

20 Aug 2024 · 51 minutes
Ep61. Could AI help us Order the Disorder?

We all know about the potential threats as AI becomes more advanced. They range from spreading disinformation, undermining our democracy... more

13 Aug 2024 · 59 minutes
Ep60. Question Time: The ICC, Unelected Disorderers, and why Ukraine should not be forced to make peace

In this episode, Jason and Alex answer some questions from our mega orderers. They discuss: the ICC’s role as an... more

08 Aug 2024 · 38 minutes
Ep59. Part 2: Could a new global institution help Order the Disorder?

In part 2 of our discussion with Jamie Metzl, author of Superconvergence, Jaime tells Jason about his idea for creating... more

06 Aug 2024 · 49 minutes
Ep58. Part 1: Will the Burgeoning Bioeconomy be a force for Order or for Disorder?

Advanced biotech (CRISPR gene editing, gene drives, personalized medicine) could be the most Disordering technology ever invented. Techniques like gene... more

30 Jul 2024 · 50 minutes
Ep57. Tunisia’s Postponed Presidential elections

The Economist called Tunisia a “light unto the Arab nations” just a decade ago, yet it may soon be fading... more

25 Jul 2024 · 48 minutes
Ep56. Nothing became his presidency like the leaving of it

Legend has it that when King George III heard that George Washington, had decided to retire after his second term,... more

22 Jul 2024 · 46 minutes
Ep55. NATO Summit 2024 – Did it help Order the Disorder?

A week ago today, NATO wrapped up its 75th anniversary summit. At the event genuine  support of Ukraine was on... more

18 Jul 2024 · 35 minutes
Ep54. If you come for the King, best not miss

In bye gone moons, Trump inadvertently quoted Ralf Waldo Emerson, “When you strike at the King, you must kill him.”... more

16 Jul 2024 · 33 minutes
Ep53. NATOs 75th Summit – Where the real Ordering happens?

NATO is the longest lasting and most successful military alliance in human history. Today NATOs 75th Summit in Washington, DC... more

11 Jul 2024 · 40 minutes
Ep52. Suburban Lib Dem Mums and Centrist Starmer Dads take back control

‘The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light; and they that dwell in the land of the... more

08 Jul 2024 · 59 minutes
Ep51. UK Elections: A lone bright spot for global Order?

Later this week as they go to the polls, UK voters will likely celebrate their very own ‘Independence from Neo-Populists... more

02 Jul 2024 · 44 minutes
Ep50. The Emperor has no clothes - Biden’s disorderly debate performance

After months of the grandees in the Democratic party telling the public that Biden’s age was nothing to worry about:... more

28 Jun 2024 · 33 minutes
Ep49. Did WWI start our era of Disorder?

Exactly 110 years ago, a malnourished teenager with a pistol disordered the world. On Sunday the 28th of June 1914,... more

28 Jun 2024 · 49 minutes
Ep48. Hotter or Poorer? Should Gulf States care about global warming?

We celebrate 9 full months of Disorder with a live studio recording. Climate change hasn’t been acted on coherently by... more

25 Jun 2024 · 55 minutes
Ep47. Has the essence of Warfare changed?

Renowned Israeli Military historian Martin Van Creveld explains to Disorder listeners how certain essential elements of warfare have remained constant... more

20 Jun 2024 · 34 minutes
Ep46. Is a truly progressive foreign policy compatible with Ordering the Disorder?

Heretofore, this podcast has largely examined the blame that neo-liberals, neo-conservatives, and neo-populists on the Right bear in causing our... more

18 Jun 2024 · 51 minutes
Ep45. Part 2: Is Britain in the Moral Superiority Industry?

The sordid tale of Tory mega donor, Mohamed Amersi, and his libel suit against Charlotte Leslie was an attempt to... more

11 Jun 2024 · 58 minutes
Ep44. Part 1: Are Corruption and Kleptocracy at the very heart of the Enduring Disorder?

Corruption, in one form or another, is as old as civilization. As long as there have been governmental authorities, private... more

04 Jun 2024 · 1 hour,
Ep43. Are we having enough babies? And listeners questions

At the end of the 20th century many world governments sought to lower birth rates – e.g. China’s One Child... more

28 May 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Ep42. Britain's True Independence (from Neopopulists) Day

Jason is so so so excited he just just just can’t hide it. He sees the hand of a providential... more

25 May 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Ep41. Iran’s Disorderer-in-Chief Dies; and as Russia Advances, Is Kharkiv at risk of being turned into Mariupol?

The sun is shining, the flowers are in bloom, there is a dense fog over the Iranian-Azeri border, what time... more

21 May 2024 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Ep40. What’s next for Georgia and its 'foreign agent’ law?

Earlier this week, Georgia passed its controversial ‘foreign agent’ law. Under the bill, NGOs and independent media that receive more... more

16 May 2024 · 45 minutes
Ep39. What Role, if any, is there for Empathy in Ordering the Disorder?

Part of the Enduring Disorder is our increasingly divided and partisan narratives. Trump vs. Biden, Leavers against Remainers, Palestinians and... more

14 May 2024 · 40 minutes
Ep38. Could Germany and South Korea go nuclear?

Putin’s nuclear threats over Ukraine and the constant potential of an Iranian/Israeli escalation have brought concerns over nuclear proliferation back... more

07 May 2024 · 53 minutes
Ep37. (Part II) Former Armenian President Sarkissian on: Can a Club of Small States Order the Disorder?

Small states like Qatar, Ireland, Singapore, Jordan, and Botswana are thriving in our disordered world. They’re smart, agile, and are... more

30 Apr 2024 · 56 minutes
Ep36. (Part I) Former Armenian President Sarkissian on: Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day

April 24th marks Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day, but the tragic Ottoman massacres of Armenians of over a century ago have... more

23 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Ep35. Israel Strikes Back: Foolish Revenge or Calculated De-escalation?

In the early morning hours of 19 April, American officials told major news outlets that an Israeli missile had struck... more

19 Apr 2024 · 50 minutes
Ep34. The Battle for Taiwan

Taiwan is not only the epicentre of the world’s semi-conductor industry and a vibrant democracy. It is arguably the most... more

18 Apr 2024 · 38 minutes
Ep33. Iran attacks Israel: Start of the Wars of Gog and Magog or an opportunity for regional cooperation and de-escalation?

In the early morning hours of April 14th Iranian drones and missiles were launched towards Israel. The launch was framed... more

15 Apr 2024 · 43 minutes
Bonus Episode: Oh Yeah-Woman: who is winning the narrative battle in Yemen, the Red Sea, and Gaza?

A decisively new kind of maritime terrorism has now emerged. Last weekend, two more British-linked ships were attacked in the... more

11 Apr 2024 · 45 minutes
Ep32. The Caribbean: Global Enduring Paradise or crossroads of the Global Enduring Disorder?

Beneath the Caribbean’s idyllic seafronts and sandy beaches lies a darker truth. Illicit money flows, corruption, and organised crime leave... more

09 Apr 2024 · 57 minutes
Bonus Episode: Which country is more Disorderly – The UK or US?

In this bonus episode, Alex and Jason catch up after a long absence and chew the fat. They discuss the... more

04 Apr 2024 · 37 minutes
Ep31. Is India a neopopulist Disorderer or a potential Orderer?

India is arguably the world’s only rising great power. As the world’s largest democracy and soon to be third largest... more

02 Apr 2024 · 50 minutes
Ep30. Is there Order in the universe? Or are we all the playthings of chance?

Can we ever truly achieve Order in the international system? Or is life itself just a deterministic jumble of uncontrollable... more

26 Mar 2024 · 47 minutes
Ep29. Freedom in the world is measurably declining… what can we do?

Every year, Freedom House releases an annual ‘global democracy health check’. According to it, the world is getting sicker. In... more

19 Mar 2024 · 37 minutes
Ep28. The Rematch of the Disorderer-in-Chief vs Joseph Robinette Status-Quo Jr.

In this year of monumental elections, there is none which looms larger than the grandaddy of them all: the 2024... more

12 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Ep27. Can we Order the entire cosmos – along with our alien friends?

When it comes to working together to face external challenges, no challenge could be greater than extraterrestrial life… and this... more

05 Mar 2024 · 48 minutes
Ep26. Was Alexei Navalny a Martyr for Democracy?

In the days following Navalny’s murder, Western leaders have made all too predictable speeches and issued all too predictable condemnations.... more

27 Feb 2024 · 58 minutes
Bonus Episode: How should the West respond to Navalny’s murder: Can the Munich Security Conference help order that response?

Wars are raging in Ukraine and the Middle East. Russia’s most famous opposition politician (Alexei Navalany) has just been murdered.... more

22 Feb 2024 · 43 minutes
Ep25. Could Artificial Intelligence-powered disinformation campaigns cause electoral mayhem?

In late January 2024, New Hampshire residents received a strange phone call. The voice of Joe Biden was telling them... more

20 Feb 2024 · 53 minutes
Bonus Episode: What has sixty years on planet earth taught Alex? Plus, listener questions.

As Alex turns 60, she and Jason  look back at how the world has changed since she first decided to... more

15 Feb 2024 · 52 minutes
Ep24. What does South Africa stand to gain from accusing Israel of Genocide in Gaza?

Much ink has been spilled about the legal definition of the crime of Genocide and if Israel has committed it... more

13 Feb 2024 · 42 minutes
Ep23. Is the democratic world morally responsible for allowing Putin's rise? With Evgenia Kara-Murza

In April 2022, undeterred by his previous two poisonings, Russian opposition politician, historian, and free speech advocate Vladimir Kara-Murza made... more

06 Feb 2024 · 1 hour,
Bonus Episode: Can the Two Matts Help Us Order the Disorder?

We wanted to let you all in on a well guarded secret: there are actually other podcasts out there that... more

01 Feb 2024 · 19 minutes
Ep22. What are Iran’s and Egypt’s roles in the evolving Middle East crisis?

This week we examine the regional roles played by Egypt and Iran and discuss British diplomacy towards those countries over... more

30 Jan 2024 · 59 minutes
Ep21. Is the EU a trade giant, but a political dwarf?

In this episode, Jason Pack and Alexandra Hall Hall open with their thoughts on the EU’s strengths and weaknesses –... more

23 Jan 2024 · 50 minutes
Bonus Episode: Oh Yeah, Man, why are the Houthis disordering global shipping in the Red Sea?

As the Houthis attack ships in the Red Sea, Arthur Snell and Jason explore: 1) How this horrible crisis is... more

18 Jan 2024 · 50 minutes
Ep20. Corruption in Plain Sight

In this episode, Jason Pack and Alexandra Hall Hall disentangle the related concepts of corruption, illegality, embezzlement, and bribery. They... more

16 Jan 2024 · 52 minutes
Ep19. Water Wars – myth or reality?

In this episode, Jason Pack is joined by Arthur Snell, and they speak to Professor Naho Mirumachi. Naho is a... more

09 Jan 2024 · 42 minutes
Ep18. Can the non-West Order the Disorder? BRICs and the future of global institutions

On the 1st of January 2024, BRICS (an international forum of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa), are welcoming... more

02 Jan 2024 · 45 minutes
Ep17. What novel disorder lies ahead in 2024? And how do we bring the holiday spirit into diplomacy?

In our Christmas special, Jason Pack and Alex Hall Hall look back at the first year of the disorder pod,... more

24 Dec 2023 · 48 minutes
Ep16. The Struggle for Leadership of the Islamic World

In this episode, Alex and Jason investigate if major Islamic nations can exercise global leadership over the Israel-Palestine conflict and... more

19 Dec 2023 · 47 minutes
Ep15. NATO: an alliance for the future? With Kurt Volker

In this week’s episode, Jason and Alex are joined by Kurt Volker, former US Ambassador to NATO and former US’s... more

12 Dec 2023 · 47 minutes
Bonus Episode: The moral and military dynamics at play in Ukraine and Gaza with David Patrikarakos

In this bonus episode, Jason discusses his mom’s Thanksgiving stuffing recipe as he is joined by our roving correspondent –... more

07 Dec 2023 · 46 minutes
Ep14. Is Disinformation Destroying Democracy?

Disinformation and culture wars are an existential problem for democracies. They foster negative feedback loops: whereby internal divisions inside democracies... more

05 Dec 2023 · 46 minutes
Ep13. It’s getting hot in here

Climate change is the perfect example of what happens on a pressing global challenge when no one leads, or even... more

28 Nov 2023 · 46 minutes
Bonus Episode: NATO, Europe, China, and the Israel-Hamas War

In a special Thanksgiving bonus episode of the podcast, Jason is joined by Alessandro Politi, the Director of the NATO... more

23 Nov 2023 · 29 minutes
Ep12. Neo-Populism in the US with Tom Malinowski

In this week’s episode, Alex and Jason are joined by former US congressman Tom Malinowski (D-NJ). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Malinowski. In addition to... more

21 Nov 2023 · 46 minutes
Ep11. The Psychology of Chaos

Diplomacy is a game, and geopolitics is a psychological sport. Though we may root for the ‘democratic good guys’, it... more

14 Nov 2023 · 50 minutes
Ep10. How international actors can stabilize the ongoing Israel-Hamas War and prevent a regional escalation

In this episode, Alex Hall Hall talks to Tom Fletcher, the former British Ambassador to Lebanon. Tom and Alex discuss... more

07 Nov 2023 · 39 minutes
Ep9. The 2023 Israeli - Hamas war: Could the Qataris help us order the disorder

As the Israeli-Hamas war enters a new phase, Alex and Jason discuss how hard it is to speak publicly and... more

30 Oct 2023 · 56 minutes
Ep8. Rules for the Ungoverned

Across the world, there are vast swathes of the planet (especially our oceans and atmosphere) that have been left without... more

24 Oct 2023 · 48 minutes
Ep7. Dirty money is everywhere, as Wall St and St Petersburg are on the same page

From London to Miami, illicit cash has been flowing through the West’s financial systems. Coordination failures have allowed disruptors like... more

17 Oct 2023 · 55 minutes
Bonus Episode: The 2023 Israeli-Hamas war: A Symptom of our era of Disorder?

On Saturday October the 7th the world awoke to the most horrific, chaotic, and game changing Arab-Israeli war in 50... more

12 Oct 2023 · 36 minutes
Ep6. NATO: A Model for Ordering the Disorder?

Nation states no longer work effectively in tandem. Gone are the days of hegemonic US power directly ordering the allies.... more

10 Oct 2023 · 54 minutes
Ep5. Migration, climate, and our era of disorder

Migration has become one of the most emotive political topics. Fears surrounding the topic are essential to the rise of... more

03 Oct 2023 · 43 minutes
Ep4. Who is leading the disorder?

It has long been held that the primary disorderers on the global stage are China and Russia. Let’s not forget,... more

26 Sep 2023 · 44 minutes
Ep2. Who Referees Cyberspace?

Although the birth of the internet was an interplay between American defense contractors and American tech firms, the US government... more

19 Sep 2023 · 46 minutes
Ep3. The Rise of the Neo-Populists

Over the past few decades leaders like Trump, Orban, and Bolsonaro have ridden a wave of popular outrage to rise... more

19 Sep 2023 · 43 minutes
Ep1. Welcome to the Global Enduring Disorder

We are living through an unprecedented era. International institutions like the UN are incapable of tackling global challenges, disordering powers... more

19 Sep 2023 · 51 minutes
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Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s... more

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We are living through an unprecedented era. International institutions like the UN are incapable of tackling global challenges, disordering powers like China... more