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There’s more to life than the world we can see. Stories, guests and interviews that can re-enchant our vision of culture, science, politics and art.


Hosted by Belle Tindall and Justin Brierley. Recorded for Seen & Unseen at Lambeth Palace.


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Lisa Fields is the founder of The Jude 3 Project - an organisation helping the Christian community know what they believe and why they believe it with a strong emphasis in equipping those of African descent in the United States and abroad.Lisa founded the organisation after encountering significant intellectual challenges to her own faith. Belle and Justin find out what answers she discovered, the unique challenges that people of colour face when it comes to Christian faith, and how we can re-enchant the voice of black Christians in the world of theology and apologetics.Lisa Fields: https://jude3project.org/our-founderFor Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jonathan Pageau is a French Canadian icon carver, public speaker and YouTuber exploring the symbolic patterns that underlie our experience of the world. He's also the editor of the Orthodox Arts Journal and host of the Symbolic World blog and podcast.Jonathan is also known for his friendship with Jordan Peterson, another thinker invested in symbolism, psychology and pointing people back to Christianity as the modern West navigates a ‘meaning crisis’.Jonathan talk to Justin and Belle about meaning, symbolism, atheism and the meaning crisis as we ask whether we can re-enchant… just about everything!Jonathan Pageau: https://thesymbolicworld.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jessica Oyelowo is a creative force of nature: an actor, TV and film producer, singer, and song-writer. Jessica has brought her art to both the stage and the screen. Living in Los Angeles with her husband, David, and their four children, much of Jessica’s latest work highlights how her faith, her dreams, her convictions, and her roles tend to collide. In particular, her latest album '(M)other' empowers, honours and champions mothers.Belle and Justin speak to Jessica about Hollywood, motherhood, and what dreaming big dreams looks like when faith is involved.For Jessica Oyelowo: https://www.jessicaoyelowo.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Milton Jones is an award-winning stand-up comedian, broadcaster, author, and 'Mock the Week' legend. He's a king of the one-liners, and crafter of the ‘Ten-Second Sermon’. Belle and Justin chat to Milton about his life, his comedy, and his Christian faith – as well as discussing the relationship between God and laughter.For Milton Jones: https://miltonjones.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Lauren Windle is a journalist, author, speaker and presenter who specialises in faith, recovery and love. She is the author of 'Notes on Love: being single and dating in a marriage-obsessed church' and the upcoming 'Notes on Feminism: Being a woman in a male-led church'.Justin and Belle chat with Lauren about her own story of addiction, recovery and faith, the intersection between Christianity and feminism from her perspective within the church, and the pervasive questions being asked by today’s culture.For Lauren Windle: https://laurenwindle.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
David Bennett is an author, speaker and theologian based at Oxford University. Originally from Australia, his book 'A War of Loves' describes his own story of encountering the love of God in a pub in the gay quarter of Sydney. He tells Belle and Justin how, as an atheistic gay activist, he became a follower of Jesus and why he advocates for a positive moral vision of biblical sexuality and discipleship.For David Bennett: https://www.dacbennett.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Professor Sabina Alkire directs the Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative at the University of Oxford. Sabina has been involved in developing methods of measuring multidimensional poverty and her work is used to address development issues in countries around the world.

Sabina is ordained in the Anglican Church. Belle and Justin explore how her Christian faith maps onto her work in engaging poverty and development and how we can re-enchant our capacity for justice and compassion in tackling global poverty.For Sabina Alkire: https://ophi.org.uk/sabina-alkire/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Martin Shaw is a renowned storyteller and mythologist, who in the last couple of years has his own quite extraordinary conversion story to tell. After many years as a poet, author and teaching others through the West Country school of myth, Martin had a visionary encounter that confounded all his expectations. Martin is now a Christian but sees this homecoming as a fulfilment of a life invested in mythology and storytelling. He tells Justin and Belle his story as they discuss storytelling, mythology and rediscovering Christianity as a ‘dream’.For Martin Shaw: https://drmartinshaw.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Helen Lewis is a journalist, broadcaster and staff writer for The Atlantic. She is the author of 'Difficult Women: A History of Feminism in 11 Fights’ and has been writing and speaking about feminism, gender, and the culture wars for several years... and occasionally gets caught up in them herself, including a viral interview with Jordan Peterson for GQ. Justin and Belle chat to Helen about the religious instincts that seems to underly secular activism on both the left and right, and whether she sees any way forward in re-enchanting feminism and the culture wars of our day.For Helen Lewis: https://helenlewiswrites.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Rory Stewart is a former cabinet minister and MP who co-hosts the hugely popular podcast 'The Rest Is Politics'. He is author of the best-selling autobiography 'Politics On The Edge'. He is interviewed by former cabinet minister Rev Jonathan Aitken who spent time in prison after being convicted of perjury, an experience which led him to embrace Christian faith. They talk about whether politics is being taken seriously, prison reform, and how Stewart's own faith infoms his vocation to public life and service.For Rory Stewart: https://www.rorystewart.co.uk/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Belle & Justin return for season three of Re-Enchanting, talking to leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. This season we welcome Rory Stewart, Jonathan Aitken, Helen Lewis, Lauren Windle, David Bennett, Sabine Alkire, Dr Martin Shaw and more.Despite the increasingly scientific and secular age we live in, many people are still searching for a bigger story to live by. Season three will feature a mix of guests - both with and without faith - and explore how those who have tired of modern materialism are the ones seeking to 're-enchant' the world. This podcast is about tracing their journey and work.Each insightful conversation helps us further unpack the question of whether our culture can be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Esau McCaulley is an author, public theologian and associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College. His book 'Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope' won numerous awards. His new memoir 'How far to the Promised Land', draws on his life and experiences to question what the American dream looks like for African-Americans.Justin and Belle talk to Esau about growing up in Alabama, the racial divides of the past and present in the USA, what difference it makes to read the Bible through the lens of African-American experience and whether the Christian vision of reality can re-enchant the conversation on race?To Support Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/give For Esau McCaulley: https://esaumccaulley.com/ For Esau's columns in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/by/esau-mccaulley For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcast There’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Kate Bowler is an author podcast host, and an Associate Professor of American Religious History at Duke University in North Carolina. After being unexpectedly diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at age 35, Kate penned the New York Times bestselling memoir, Everything Happens for a Reason (and Other Lies I’ve Loved) and No Cure For Being Human (and Other Truths I Need to Hear). Kate hosts the Everything Happens podcast where she talks with her guests about what they’ve learned in difficult times.Justin and Belle talk to Kate about her journey with cancer and some of the theology often associated with health, wealth and prosperity. And in a social media saturated culture where people often curate a picture-perfect version of their life, how can we re-enchant the reality of being imperfect humans in a messy world?To Support Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/giveFor Kate Bowler: https://katebowler.com/ For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcast There’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Professor Rosalind Picard is founder and director of the Affective Computing Research Group at MIT. She has pioneered the field of life-saving wearable technology that responds to human emotion and wellbeing. Ros is an expert in machine learning and AI - a field that has exploded in public consciousness recently, moving from the world of sci-fi to everyday life with the advent of Chat GPT and numerous other interactive AI programmes. What does all this mean for the future of humanity? How do we ensure that technology doesn't dehumanise its creators? Ros approaches these questions not only as a computer scientist but as a Christian, having undergone an adult conversion to faith. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall ask how we can re-enchant AI and technology in a world where the human touch seems to be being replaced by automated chatbots and virtual relationships.For Ros Picard: https://web.media.mit.edu/~picard/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Suzannah Lipscomb is an award-winning historian, author and broadcaster who has brought the loves, lives and intrigues of the sixteenth century to millions of people through TV shows, podcasts and writing. She is the author of several books, including '1536: The Year that changed Henry VIII' and 'The Voices of Nîmes: Women, Sex, and Marriage in Reformation Languedoc'.Justin and Belle talk to Suzannah about why she has devoted her life to understanding the past, the way the British monarchy shaped Christendom, why she is focussed on uncovering the real stories of women in our history books, and how as a Christian she puts faith and the tumultuous history of the church together. Look out for a bonus conversation at the end of the show when Suzannah reflects on the problem of suffering as a Christian.For Suzannah Lipscomb: https://suzannahlipscomb.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Glen Scrivener is an author, speaker, filmmaker and director of the charity Speak Life. His most recent book ’The Air We Breathe’ has been widely praised as a guide to ‘how we all came to believe in freedom, kindness, progress and equality’.Glen’s book is a whistle stop tour of 2,000 years of history showing why it was the Christian revolution that gave the West its moral instincts on compassion, equality, consent, freedom and progress.For The Air We Breathe: https://speaklife.org.uk/books/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chine McDonald is an author, public theologian and speaker and the Director of Theos. Her most recent book ‘God is not a white man: And other revelations’ told her own experience as a black woman in Britain and the way in which both culture and the church still have a long way to go in addressing racism.How does the Christian story speak to these issues? Is the church just as complicit in racism as the culture around it? What has helped Chine to keep faith in a vision of truly multicultural kingdom of God in which everybody’s experience and personhood is valued?For Chine McDonald: https://www.chinemcdonald.com/For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. C,an our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Richard Dawkins and the new atheists began a popular anti-God movement in the mid 2000s. But why did the movement sputter out? And could we be seeing the start of a new conversation on God?Re-Enchanting co-host Justin Brierley becomes the guest in this edition of the show as Belle Tindall and Graham Tomlin interview him about his new book 'The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God: Why new atheism grew old and secular thinkers are considering Christianity again.'For the book: https://justinbrierley.com/the-surprising-rebirth-of-belief-in-god/ For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This October marks Disney’s 100th birthday. Since Disney are in the ‘enchantment’ business, we're dedicating a special episode to discussing its cultural impact. Two guests join Belle and Justin.Yaroslav Sky-Walker is the assistant Priest of Holy Trinity Church, Sloane Square In his spare time, Yaroslav reads theology and writes slightly histrionic film reviews… many of which you can find on Seen and Unseen. Esmé Partridge is a writer and MPhil candidate in the Philosophy of Religion at the University of Cambridge. She also works at the intersection of religion and politics, focusing on religious freedom and interfaith relations. For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Molly Worthen is a journalist and associate professor of history at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. For the past decade she has pursued a career researching the religious and intellectual history of North America. As well as writing books such as 'Apostles of Reason: The Crisis of Authority in American Evangelicalism', she is regular contributor to publications such as the New York Times, The Atlantic and The New Yorker.But Molly’s story took an interesting turn recently. Having been an agnostic most of her life, last year she converted to Christianity. Having researched the good, the bad and the ugly of Christian history we’ll be finding out what led her to embrace faith in the end. And with the continuing polarisation of politics and church culture among US evangelicals why on earth has Molly chosen to be an insider rather than an outsider in the US church?For Re-Enchanting: https://www.seenandunseen.com/podcastThere’s more to life than the world we can see. Re-Enchanting is a podcast from Seen & Unseen recorded at Lambeth Palace Library, the home of the Centre for Cultural Witness. Justin Brierley and Belle Tindall engage faith and spirituality with leading figures in science, history, politics, art and education. Can our culture be re-enchanted by the vision of Christianity? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mark G Wallace

A really fascinating listen - I'll definitely read her book!

Aug 11th
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Rob Esdaile

Excellent discussion, making me want to read her novels. Great reflections on theology and science.

May 31st
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T J

This podcast has only had a few episodes, but they are simply excellent. Justin and Bell really listen to their diverse guests as they discuss how to re-enchant our world.

May 18th
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