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117: [Joan Hoyt] A Danger to Society 39:27

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Content warning: pedophilia, sexual sadism, paraphilia, psychopathy, brutality, child sexual abuse material, rape, sexual assault, torture, and murder. Joan Hoyt is a business professional and family woman from Santa Cruz, California. Although she has proudly served her county as a juror before, a 2024 jury duty assignment opened her eyes to the harsh realities of a criminal justice process she would have never thought was real prior. Her assignment included listening to the heartbreaking facts of Madyson Middleton’s gruesome 2015 murder, then deeming whether Madyson’s murderer should be released from juvenile incarceration in February of 2025, only ten years later. And when the jurors learned this process will occur every two years in perpetuity because of laws placed in effect after Madyson’s murder, Joan and her fellow jurors began using all they witnessed as fuel towards making legal change. The Broken Cycle Media team is so deeply grateful Joan was willing to share her unique perspective with us today, and that she continues to fight for justice for Madyson and so many others. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Madyson Middleton. Sources: California Supreme Court Upholds Law Protecting 14–15-Year-Olds from Transfer to Adult Court . (2022, July 27). National Center for Youth Law. https://youthlaw.org/news/california-supreme-court-upholds-law-protecting-14-15-year-olds-transfer-adult-court Chun, M. (2025, February 28). Juror in Gonzalez trial urges reform of state bill that prevented him from being charged as adult, allows repeat chances for release . Lookout Santa Cruz. https://lookout.co/juror-in-adrian-gonzalez-trial-urge-reform-of-state-bill-that-prevented-him-from-being-charged-as-adult-allows-repeat-chances-for-release/story Santa Cruz jury denies release of man convicted of murdering 8-year-old Maddy Middleton. (2025, February 20). ABC7 San Francisco . https://abc7news.com/post/maddy-middleton-death-santa-cruz-jury-denies-release-adrian-gonzalez-man-convicted-murdering-raping-8-year-old-girl/15934976/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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116: [Victoria Latham] No Legal Precedent // Part 3 47:19

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Content warning: fraud and professional abuse. As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice. Victoria's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/victorialatham Oliver Pluff & Co: http://www.oliverpluff.com Sources: Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M . (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction . American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Green Chef for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to try the number one meal kit for eating well! Go to greenchef.com/wcnfree and use the code WCNFREE to get started with free salads for two months plus 50% off your first box.…

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115: [Victoria Latham] Who Do I Report This To? // Part 2 38:30

21 days ago38:30

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Content warning: fraud and professional abuse. As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice. Sources: Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M . (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction . American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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114: [Victoria Latham] The Balances Kept Rising // Part 1 33:07

28 days ago33:07

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Content warning: fraud, professional abuse, child sexual abuse material, and gun violence. Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice. Sources: Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M . (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction . American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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113: [Kiersten Hathcock] Shame Heaped Upon Survivors // Part 2 31:33

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Content warning: substance abuse disorder, lethal substance consumption, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship. As shared in part one of her story, Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised in Ohio, her journey has taken her to many places and through many professional phases. It wasn’t until turning 36 that her trajectory became much more spiritually-based, and she realized she had become re-attuned to an ability she had first experienced as a child. In the process, she would also recover memories of her own childhood sexual abuse. In uncovering her past, as well as many other victims’ untold narratives, she has become an advocate for the voiceless within her work. Since starting her volunteer role as a medium in cold case murders and other related crimes, she has helped bring justice and/or solace to families across the country. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her energy, advocacy, and openness to share, and the listener’s nuanced understanding of Kiersten’s narrative. Sources: National Institute for Law and Justice: https://nilj.org/ Kiersten’s website: https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/ Little Voices: A Memoir https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.html Kiersten’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/kierstenhathcock For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources . And don't forget to follow Familicide for new episodes and updates.…

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112: [Kiersten Hathcock] What I'm Here to Do // Part 1 40:17

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Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship. Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised in Ohio, her journey has taken her to many places and through many professional phases. It wasn’t until turning 36 that her trajectory became much more spiritually-based, and she realized she had become re-attuned to an ability she had first experienced as a child. In the process, she would also recover memories of her own childhood sexual abuse. In uncovering her past, as well as many other victims’ untold narratives, she has become an advocate for the voiceless within her work. Since starting her volunteer role as a medium in cold case murders and other related crimes, she has helped bring justice and/or solace to families across the country. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her energy, advocacy, and openness to share, and the listener’s nuanced understanding of Kiersten’s narrative. Sources: Kiersten’s website: https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/ Little Voices: A Memoir https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.html Kiersten’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/kierstenhathcock Chu, J. A., Frey, L. M., Ganzel, B. L., & Matthews, J. A. (1999). Memories of childhood abuse: dissociation, amnesia, and corroboration. The American journal of psychiatry , 156 (5), 749–755. https://doi.org/10.1176/ajp.156.5.749 Loftus, E. F., Garry, M., & Feldman, J. (1994). Forgetting sexual trauma: what does it mean when 38% forget?. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology , 62 (6), 1177–1186. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-006x.62.6.1177 Williams L. M. (1994). Recall of childhood trauma: a prospective study of women's memories of child sexual abuse. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology , 62 (6), 1167–1176. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-006x.62.6.1167 Williams L. M. (1995). Recovered memories of abuse in women with documented child sexual victimization histories. Journal of traumatic stress , 8 (4), 649–673. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02102893 For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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111: [Liz Iacuzzi] Do Not Let It Dim Your Flame 36:23

7 weeks ago36:23

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Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, narcissistic abuse, cultic abuse, cults, and sexual abuse. Liz Iacuzzi is an athlete, writer, performer, and personality who focuses on exploring uncomfortable subject matter through comedy. However, it wasn’t until extricating herself from an acting class-turned-cult that she would eventually discover her next passion: educating the masses about cultic abuse. She does so on her podcast, Was I in a Cult? on which she helps other cult survivors share their stories for awareness. We are so grateful Liz was willing to share her journey with us today, especially because it is one of the first times she’s publicly divulged it at-length. Was I in a Cult? Podcast: https://www.wasiinacult.com/ Was I in a Cult? Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wasiinacult/ Liz's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/theiacuzzi For a list of resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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110: [Mike Sacks] Up to Us to Protect // Part 2 30:04

8 weeks ago30:04

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Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse. Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors of sexual abuse and assault in their journey of healing, alongside Kelly Gee, whose story has also been featured in What Came Next episodes 51 & 52. But before Mike was able to begin helping others, he had to come to terms with his own abuse and begin healing from his childhood experiences. In these episodes, Mike candidly shares about his struggles, the healing process, and what it’s like traversing the media in an attempt to improve procedures in the athletic world. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mike’s time, energy, and the ability to amplify his efforts towards curating change for athletes around the world. Resources: Survivors for Change: https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ Survivors for Change on FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheS4C WCN E51: [Kelly Gee] Against Big Odds // Part 1 WCN E52: [Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2 For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources Sources: Goldberg, R. (2020, May 28). USA Hockey Pres. Jim Smith’s Handling of Alleged Sexual Misconduct Investigated. The Bleacher Report . https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2893866 Illinois General Assembly - Illinois Compiled Statutes . (n.d.). Illinois General Assembly. https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K13-202.2 Schulte, S. (2017, August 14). Illinois wipes out statute of limitations for child sex abuse. ABC13 Houston . https://abc13.com/illinois-sex-abuse-statute-of-limitations/2310638/ Strang, K. (2020, February 21). Former players say Chicago area hockey coach sexually abused them. The Athletic . https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1591547/2020/02/21/former-players-say-chicago-area-hockey-coach-sexually-abused-them/…

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109: [Mike Sacks] Silence Is an Incubator // Part 1 34:21

9 weeks ago34:21

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Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse. Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors of sexual abuse and assault in their journey of healing, alongside Kelly Gee, whose story has also been featured in What Came Next episodes 51 & 52. But before Mike was able to begin helping others, he had to come to terms with his own abuse and begin healing from his childhood experiences. In the following episodes, Mike candidly shares about his struggles, the healing process, and what it’s like traversing the media in an attempt to improve procedures in the athletic world. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mike’s time, energy, and the ability to amplify his efforts towards curating change for athletes around the world. Resources: Survivors for Change: https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ WCN E51: [Kelly Gee] Against Big Odds // Part 1 WCN E52: [Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2 Sources: Goldberg, R. (2020, May 28). USA Hockey Pres. Jim Smith’s Handling of Alleged Sexual Misconduct Investigated. The Bleacher Report . https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2893866 Strang, K. (2020, February 21). Former players say Chicago area hockey coach sexually abused them. The Athletic . https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1591547/2020/02/21/former-players-say-chicago-area-hockey-coach-sexually-abused-them/ For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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108: [Stacy Kaiser] A Ripple Effect 32:07

10 weeks ago32:07

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Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, and murder. Stacy Kaiser is a licensed psychotherapist, relationship expert, author, and speaker. She was drawn to Psychology in youth and finds deep value in helping others navigate some of the hardest portions of their lives. In this thoughtful conversation, Stacy shares about the field of psychology, offers tips on finding the right therapist, and divulges how she’s utilized her expertise both in-front of the camera and behind-the-scenes of some of true crime’s most well-known docuseries. The Broken Cycle Media team extends our intense gratitude to Stacy for her work, time, energy, and advocacy in this episode and otherwise. Stacy's website: http://www.stacykaiser.com Stacy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thestacykaiser/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Apostrophe for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget, to get started just go to apostrophe.com/wcn and click get started, then use our code WCN at signup and you'll get your first visit for only five dollars.…

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107: [SWW x WCN] S20, S18, & S7 Case Updates & Reflections 42:21

11 weeks ago42:21

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*Content warning: car accidents, medical trauma, stalking, medical fraud, doula fraud, birth worker abuse, domestic violence homicide, murder, legal abuse. Please sign our petition to hold Jessica Polly accountable: https://www.change.org/p/hold-jessica-polly-accountable Please sign Amy’s petition to keep Jesse Winnick in Prison: https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-loving-memory-of-hadas-winnick What Came Next Episodes referenced in this episode: [Amy B. Chesler - Evil Lives Here] This Sh*t Doesn’t End - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-this-sh-t-doesnt-end/id1674051643?i=1000602598564 [Amy B. Chesler - Evil Lives Here] The Darkest Times Are All Behind Me - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-the-darkest-times-are/id1674051643?i=1000612743331 [John-Michael Lander] An Athlete’s Silence - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-an-athletes-silence/id1674051643?i=1000619765637 [John-Michael Lander] Episode 22 Updates // Part 1 - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-episode-22-updates-part-1/id1674051643?i=1000662000663 [John-Michael Lander Hosts] WCN E1 & E13 Updates // Part 2 - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-hosts-wcn-e1-e13-updates-part-2/id1674051643?i=1000662716253 [WCN Presents] SWW S19 Updates - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wcn-presents-sww-s19-updates/id1674051643?i=1000667242886 For a list of related free and confidential resources, please visit: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3): https://www.ic3.gov/ Follow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast Follow Tiffany Reese: Website: tiffanyreese.me IG: instagram.com/lookieboo business@tiffanyreese.me The SWW theme Song is U Think U, by Glad Rags. The S21 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart .…

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106: [Karie Kroll] It's About Justice 38:26

12 weeks ago38:26

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Content warning: sexual assault, physical violence, brutality, and murder. Karie Kroll is a nurse of over 30 years, a family woman, and a co-victim of murder from Iowa. She found her passion for nursing at a young age and pursued a degree in the medical field out of college. However, it was not long into her professional trajectory that her family experienced a devastating loss: the horrific 1996 murder of her sister, Amanda. In this episode, Karie describes all that came next for her family while navigating the criminal justice system throughout the last 30 years, and the drastic changes they experienced just last year. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Karie's candidness, advocacy, and her willingness to share her sister's memory with our audience. This episode is in loving memory of Amanda Michelle Folker. Sources: Registrant Information. (2024). In Murderer and Violent Offender Against Youth Database . https://isp.illinois.gov/MVOAY/Details/X16B2238 For a list of non-profit organizations and related resources at http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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105: [Milena Monrroy] This Changed My Life 42:12

13 weeks ago42:12

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Content warning: gun violence, armed robbery, grand theft, and home invasion. Milena Monrroy is a Los Angeles-based producer and the co-host of the podcast Latina Life with Jen and Milena. Her life has been largely influenced by her roles as a single mother and a storyteller, but her trajectory took a drastic turn when she became a victim of a home invasion and armed robbery in January of 2022. The months following would be filled with not only immense stress, upheaval, and fear, but also a taxing legal battle to receive justice. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for Milena’s vulnerability and raw accounts of all that’s came next for her over the last two years, in hopes of bringing awareness to our audience. Milena’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/milenaonair Latina Life with Jen and Milena: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-latina-life-with-jen-and-m-89358863/ Latina Life with Jen and Milena on IG: https://www.instagram.com/latinalifepodcast Sources: Burglary Statistics . (2024, July 19). The Zebra. https://www.thezebra.com/resources/research/burglary-statistics/ Home Invasion Statics By State . (2024, April 11). Consumer Affairs. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/home-invasion-statistics-by-state.html For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources…

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104: [Elle Gargano] My Second Chance at Life // Part 2 39:03

14 weeks ago39:03