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Black Sheep and Bad Apples was created as a project by Loren O'Brien to find something he wasn't good at and to get better. That experiment has slowly evolved from casual meandering conversations into deep dives into a variety of topics. In it's current iteration, BS+BA is an exploration into conspiracies -- real and fake, as well as social issues and the news to examine the context within which we live today. Some guests come in to cold, knowing nothing, while others come in knowing slightly more. Either way, the host, Loren, tries to make it a fun, interesting journey into the unknown.

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Black Sheep and Bad Apples was created as a project by Loren O'Brien to find something he wasn't good at and to get better. That experiment has slowly evolved from casual meandering conversations into deep dives into a variety of topics. In it's current iteration, BS+BA is an exploration into conspiracies -- real and fake, as well as social issues and the news to examine the context within which we live today. Some guests come in to cold, knowing nothing, while others come in knowing slightly more. Either way, the host, Loren, tries to make it a fun, interesting journey into the unknown.

    71 Larry V. Jerry: A Sh*thead Showdown

    71 Larry V. Jerry: A Sh*thead Showdown

    Sam, Shawn and Loren look at the Supreme Court Case of Hustler Magazine V Falwell. They begin by introducing a bit of a biography on both individuals before discussing the legal battle that ensued between them that endangered (and sort-of saved) free speech, allowing Americans to make fun of public officials and protecting parody as a 1st Amendment right.


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    70 The Many Faces of Agenda 21

    70 The Many Faces of Agenda 21

    Loren brings Shawn and Sam along for a discussion about the nefarious Agenda 21/Agenda 30 conspiracy and how it can neatly - yet wrongly - explain many other conspiracies.


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    • 2 hr 14 min
    69 The Source: A Health Food Cult

    69 The Source: A Health Food Cult

    Loren is joined by Sam and Shawn to discuss James Edward Baker Jr and the rise and fall of a hippy health food cult named The Source.


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    68 The War On Women Pt. 3

    68 The War On Women Pt. 3

    In this installment of the War On Women, Loren is again joined by Kelly and Allie to discuss marriage, no-fault divorce and incompatibility. They discuss the importance of no-fault divorce and take a look at some of the modern advocates of getting rid of it. They contend that the right to no-fault divorce is destroying the moral fabric of society by empowering women. We look into how they're wrong. This episode has a brief discussion of emotional abuse.



    [1] Smithsonian Magazine; "The Heartbreaking History of Divorce"

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/heartbreaking-history-of-divorce-180949439/

    [2] Mother Jones; "The Right's War On Divorce -- And It's Costs"

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/no-fault-divorce-texas-republican-gop-crowder/

    [3] History News Network; "Teddy Roosevelt Also Asked Congress to Add a Marriage Amendment-The Answer Was No"

    http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/3889.html

    [4] Media Matters: "After Roe, conservatives set their sights on ending no-fault divorce laws"

    https://www.mediamatters.org/tim-pool/after-roe-conservatives-set-their-sights-ending-no-fault-divorce-laws

    [5] Ben Shapiro's "Hot Take On No-Fault Divorce";

    https://youtu.be/Q4TXVBaZO7g?si=LGSPQl-J30Tqfwl2

    [6] Media Matters; "Tim Pool: 'I think a large portion of the women we've had on Timcast IRL are in favor of repealing the 19th amendment'” https://www.mediamatters.org/tim-pool/tim-pool-i-think-large-portion-women-weve-had-timcast-irl-are-favor-repealing-19th

    [7] Media Matters; "On YouTube, Tim Pool suggests “high values dudes” should shame women based on their number of sexual partners" https://www.mediamatters.org/tim-pool/youtube-tim-pool-suggests-high-values-dudes-should-shame-women-based-their-number-sexual

    [8] Media Matters: "On Timcast IRL, Terry Schilling claims no-fault divorce will lead to our cities being “ransacked” by “criminal orphans” https://www.mediamatters.org/tim-pool/timcast-irl-terry-schilling-claims-no-fault-divorce-will-lead-our-cities-being-ransacked

    [9] Media Matters; "Steven Crowder’s horrifically sexist YouTube show" https://www.mediamatters.org/steven-crowder/steven-crowders-horrifically-sexist-youtube-show



    If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-7233 or Text START to 88788 or https://www.thehotline.org/


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    67 The War On Women PT. 2

    67 The War On Women PT. 2

    In this episode, Loren is joined by Kelly and Allie to continue their conversation about the War On Women. This episode features discussions about women being banned from preaching in the Southern Baptist Church, what the "proper" roles are for the genders, seduction laws, that time people lost their minds over women wearing pants, that time people lost their minds over women smoking in public, that time that people lost their minds over the "dangers" of women riding bikes, and The Transformed Wife; a modern christian regressive trying to turn women into "godly women" by telling them they shouldn't have emotional needs.


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    • 1 hr 44 min
    66 The War On Women PT.1

    66 The War On Women PT.1

    In this episode, Loren sits down with his wife, Kelly, and their friend Allie to discuss the various battles that have made up the War On Women. They discuss marriage, virginity, women being kind-of-but-not-really property to first, their fathers and then, their husbands and how all of this was tied together with business, legality and fuck-contracts.



    Sources;


    [1]

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/13/us/idaho-abortion-doctors-drain/index.html



    [2]

    https://www.acog.org/clinical-information/policy-and-position-statements/position-statements/2018/restrictions-to-comprehensive-reproductive-health-care#2



    [3]

    https://www.focusonthefamily.com/pro-life/the-history-of-christianity-and-abortion/



    [4]

    https://michiganlawreview.org/the-return-of-coverture/



    [5]

    https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/coverture-word-you-probably-dont-know-should



    [6]

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiNw4Lyu5b_AhUMMDQIHWFxAl4QFnoECDYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fscholarworks.iu.edu%2Fjournals%2Findex.php%2Fiujur%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F23364%2F29533%2F55389&usg=AOvVaw38_OFWjI09G7z37Uo_Bvad



    [7]

    https://ap.gilderlehrman.org/essay/legal-status-women-1776%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%E2%80%9C1830



    [8]

    https://medium.com/the-establishment/a-quick-and-dirty-history-of-virginity-9ceb24b7e08a



    [9]

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/from-yesterday-s-spinster-to-today-s-crazy-cat-lady-has-anything-really-changed-1.5576938



    [10]

    http://www.histarch.illinois.edu/plymouth/Lauria1.html



    [11]

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54693159



    [12]

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Married-Womens-Property-Acts-United-States-1839



    [13]

    https://books.google.com/books?id=5kjkZjvnI-sC&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q&f=false



    [14]

    https://www.history.com/topics/womens-history/womens-history-us-timeline



    [15]

    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/what-are-the-comstock-laws



    [16]

    https://www.history.com/news/chamberlain-kahn-act-std-venereal-disease-imprisonment-women



    [17]

    https://www.history.com/topics/womens-history/womens-history-us-timeline



    [18]

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/2018/12/18/meet-transformed-wife-whose-working-mom-chart-rocked-world/2342435002/




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    • 1 hr 17 min

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