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For centuries, members of the B’doul Bedouin tribe lived in the caves around the ancient city of Petra, Jordan. Then, in the 1980s, the government forced the tribe to move in the name of preserving the geological site for tourists. But if the residents are forced to leave, and if their heritage has been permanently changed, then what exactly is being preserved? SHOW NOTES: Meet The Man Living in The Lost City Carved in Stone Jordan: Petra's tourism authority cracks down on Bedouin cave dwellers The tribes paying the brutal price of conservation “There is no future for Umm Sayhoun” Jordan’s Young Bedouins Are Documenting Their Traditions on TikTok Check out Sami's company Jordan Inspiration Tours Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices…
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Join host John Moe (The Hilarious World of Depression) for honest, relatable, and, yes, sometimes funny conversations about mental health. Hear from comedians, musicians, authors, actors, and other top names in entertainment and the arts about living with depression, anxiety, and many other common disorders. Find out what they’ve done to address it, what worked, and what didn’t. Depresh Mode also features useful insights on mental health issues with experts in the field. It’s honest talk from people who have been there and know their stuff. No shame, no stigma, and more laughs than you might expect.
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Join host John Moe (The Hilarious World of Depression) for honest, relatable, and, yes, sometimes funny conversations about mental health. Hear from comedians, musicians, authors, actors, and other top names in entertainment and the arts about living with depression, anxiety, and many other common disorders. Find out what they’ve done to address it, what worked, and what didn’t. Depresh Mode also features useful insights on mental health issues with experts in the field. It’s honest talk from people who have been there and know their stuff. No shame, no stigma, and more laughs than you might expect.
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1 Cameron Esposito on Comedy, Rehab, and Bipolar Disorder 44:05
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Cameron Esposito has many titles: hugely successful standup comedian, actor in television and film, writer, podcast host. After a recent rehab stay led to a mental health diagnosis, she has realized that she’s also a person with bipolar disorder, type II. Cameron has a new special, Four Pills , that’s part stand-up comedy and part reflection on the circumstances that led to this discovery as well as thoughts on what life as a treated person for bipolar will mean going forward. Cameron Esposito joins us for a very funny and deeply personal conversation about mental health, medication, comedy, and the road ahead. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 The Thorny Issue of Airline Pilots and Mental Illness 37:41
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Statistics say that 23% of Americans are currently living with some form of mental illness. For most people, that calls for reaching out for help and receiving treatment and advice on management. But if you’re an FAA-approved airline pilot, disclosing that you have something like a depressive disorder or an anxiety problem can mean a temporary pause or permanent end to your entire career. Of course, having a mental illness, not disclosing or getting treatment, and flying anyway presents a variety of problems as well. Dr. Helen Ouyang wrote about this in a recent New York Times Magazine article and joins us to unpack it all. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Hanif Abdurraqib on Cultivating a Support System, Depression, Anxiety, and Basketball 48:36
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Hanif Abdurraqib is a MacArthur Fellow, accomplished poet, and critically lauded author of numerous books, including There’s Always This Year: On Basketball and Ascension , which is now out in paperback. He’s also a person who deals with major depressive disorder and numerous anxiety disorders. In a revealing, positive, and practical interview, Hanif talks about the numerous ways he cares for his mental health issues by both taking care of himself and building a strong community of other people around him to lean on. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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Things are scary in this country these days for a lot of people. There is turmoil in the government, shakiness in the economy, and a deep divide over what America even means anymore. In times of upheaval, it’s a good idea to reach out to friends, see how they’re holding up, help carry their burdens and sorrows, and see what wise advice they can share about perseverance. We do this on our show from time to time. In this mini-episode, we check in on a good friend of the show Open Mike Eagle. He’s a very popular rapper, podcast host of What Had Happened Was , comedy person, and all around great guy. It's the final week of the 2025 Max Fun Drive! Check out the fun thank you gifts and become a member of Max Fun ! Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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We’ve been seeing an influx of new listeners recently. It’s very exciting. Thank you for that and we’re delighted that you’ve joined us. So we thought we’d take a moment and explain what the show is all about and who it’s for. Spoiler alert: it’s for everyone, including you, regardless of your mental health history. It's the final week of the 2025 Max Fun Drive! Check out the fun thank you gifts and become a member of Max Fun ! Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Jim James of My Morning Jacket on Depression, EMDR, Gratitude, and Taking Care of Jim 1:03:02
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“I’m very kind to Jim, I’m trying to take good care of Jim, I’m trying to love Jim,” says musician Jim James of the band My Morning Jacket. The kindness he’s showing Jim, himself, is a relatively new thing, he says, after a long time spent kind of beating up on the guy. As My Morning Jacket releases its new album, is, Jim reflects back on issues such as a need for validation through achievement, alcoholism, and depression. And he shares what he’s learned through intense therapy, meditation, EMDR, gratitude, and family systems therapy. It's the final week of the 2025 Max Fun Drive! Check out the fun thank you gifts and become a member of Max Fun ! Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 BONUS CONTENT PREVIEW: Depresh Mode: The Game Show 5:32
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In this bonus content edition of Depresh Mode, We’re joined by some Maximum Fun all-stars for some very light-hearted and delightfully competitive games that are as informative as they are silly. Our competitors: Justin McElroy of My Brother, My Brother, and Me , Adventure Zone , and Sawbones Hal Lublin of Tights & Fights and We Got This Laura Swisher, senior producer overseeing about a million Max Fun podcasts Who will win the game Antidepressant, Pokemon, or State Fair Food ? Who will emerge victorious in Google Scholar or Member of Parliament/Funkadelic ? Can our panel tell the difference between an emo band lyric, a quote from The Simpsons’ Moe, or a line heard on Depresh Mode? Tune in and find out!…
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1 John Moe helps kick off MFD Spring Break 1:19:17
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It’s not MaxFunDrive without a wild kickoff spectacular! Former real-life VJ and host of MTV's Spring Break 1999, Dave Holmes, takes your favorite MaxFun hosts through some wacky ‘90s- and Spring Break-themed mini games!! Featuring: Dave Holmes, Jeremy Bent, Oscar Montoya, Dimitry Pompée, Tom Lum, Ellen Weatherford, Alex Schmidt, Brenda Snell, Drea Clark, Alonso Duralde, Dan McCoy, Jordan Morris, Manolo Moreno, Ella Hubber, Caroline Roper, Ella McLeod, John-Luke Roberts, Justin McElroy, Clint McElroy, Mike Cabellon, Sierra Katow, Hal Lublin, Danielle Radford, John Moe, Christian Dueñas, Christian Duguay.…
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1 J. Kenji Lopez-Alt on Food, Booze, Weed, Anxiety, Depression, and Living a Healthy Life 54:07
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The alcohol, says J. Kenji Lopez-Alt, came about in young adulthood, when it solved persistent social anxiety and made him the life of the party. As Kenji found tremendous success in food writing and restaurateuring, he found that he couldn’t really make it through the day without downing between two and five drinks. This wasn’t hard to pull off in the food business, surrounded by booze and a culture that heartily encouraged its consumption. Kenji found that, as is so often the case with mental health, that the reality of the condition didn’t match the drunken messy stereotype: his work wasn’t harmed, he had strong relationships and a family. It’s just that he was an addict. Finally, just a few months ago and in his mid-40’s, he decided to get sober. This episode marks the kick-off of the 2025 Max Fun Drive! Check out the fun thank you gifts and become a member of Max Fun ! Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Checking in With Friends During Scary Times: Paul F. Tompkins, Ana Marie Cox, and Gary Gulman 50:32
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Maybe you’re one of those people who dreads even looking at the news these days, with stories of layoffs, tariffs, upheaval in foreign policy, and a lack of knowledge as to where this is all going and what it might mean for the future of America and the world. It’s a tumultuous time. When things are chaotic, it can be good to check in with one’s friends and that’s what Depresh Mode does this week. We have conversations of commiseration, of humor, and of hope with comedian and actor Paul F. Tompkins, pundit and writer Ana Marie Cox, and comic and author Gary Gulman. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Heavy Substance Use, Heavy Depression, and Heavy Metal with Randy Blythe from Lamb of God 48:32
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Lamb of God is a very popular heavy metal band with Grammy nominations, gold records, and a huge headbanging following. Randy Blythe, front man for the band and author of a new book, Just Beyond the Light , is in recovery from drugs and alcohol and tells stories of finding sobriety, including how it was pretty easy to stay sober while on an Australian vacation surrounded by koalas but a lot harder once he returned to the States and the old patterns and routines of his life. Randy also talks about surviving a panic attack and finding better health through acts of service to others. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Microdosing with James Fadiman and Jordan Gruber 47:25
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Microdosing involves taking very small amounts of psychedelic substances such as LSD or psilocybin, maybe seven to twelve percent of a regular dose. It’s not enough to “trip out” but enough, proponents say, to yield very positive results, especially in terms of treating depression that hasn’t responded well to other methods. The catalog of extensive clinical, scientific trials about the practice of microdosing is pretty limited but James Fadiman and Jordan Gruber have collected what scientific material there is plus a great number of anecdotal reports in their new book, Microdosing for Health, Healing, and Enhanced Performance . They tell us about the potential of microdosing for mental health, migraines, long covid, and athletics. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Surviving Trauma and Having a Few Laughs with Ophira Eisenberg 48:21
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Ophira Eisenberg once believed that everyone had a trauma quota, a maximum amount of hardship that a person would face in life and once that mark was hit, nothing bad would ever happen again. It was a way of comforting herself after a car accident at age eight that seriously injured Ophira and killed her friend. Turns out that’s not how life works and Ophira still had cancer and a miscarriage to deal with later on. Ophira joins us for a wise and actually very funny conversation about trauma, being an “awful patient”, and healing. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Your Vagus Nerve: Key to Depression Relief? / Actor-Writer Kit Williamson 48:37
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Would you get a device the size of a Nilla wafer implanted in your body if it meant relief from treatment-resistant depression? There are big advances being made in vagal nerve stimulation therapy, a process by which electrical impulses are fed into a patient’s vagus nerve to alleviate depression that hasn’t responded to more common treatments. We take a look at the science, the breakthroughs, and why your insurance might be more likely to cover it. Then we have an interview with actor and writer Kit Williamson, creator of the new series Unconventional, about living with depression, living with anxiety, and bringing those struggles to television comedy. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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1 Neko Case on Pain, Neglect, Music, and Confidence 46:18
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The cover of Neko Case’s memoir features a young Neko in a swimsuit she says she wore for six months straight and she’s accompanied by a drawing of a big spiky-toothed monster who she says is there to protect her. The invention of such monsters can feel necessary when one’s parents are unavailable, simply not physically present, or, in the case of her mother, faking their own death only to reappear a year and a half later. Neko talks about the trauma of her childhood, what music meant then and as she grew up, and how she’s shouldered and managed the pain ever since. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun . Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com ! Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at depreshmode@maximumfun.org . Depresh Mode is on BlueSky , Instagram , Substack , and you can join our Preshies Facebook group . Help is available right away. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741. International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines…
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