8th Layer Insights
Get ready for a deep dive into what cybersecurity professionals often refer to as the "8th Layer" of security: HUMANS. Welcome to 8th Layer Insights (8Li). This podcast is a multidisciplinary exploration into how the complexities of human nature affect security and risk. Author, security researcher, and behavior science enthusiast Perry Carpenter taps experts for their insights and illumination. Topics include cybersecurity, psychology, behavior science, communication, leadership, and more.
Episodes
December 27, 2024 • 40 mins
Note: We're posting Perry's new show, "The FAIK Files", to this feed through the end of 2024. This will give you a chance to get a feel for the new show and subscribe to the new feed if you want to keep following in 2025.
Welcome back to the show that keeps you informed on all things artificial intelligence and natural nonsense.
In our holiday episode, Mason opens a rather unique Christmas present from Perry, we invite a specia...
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December 20, 2024 • 61 mins
Note: We're posting Perry's new show, "The FAIK Files", to this feed through the end of the year. This will give you a chance to get a feel for the new show and subscribe to the new feed if you want to keep following in 2025.
Welcome back to the show that keeps you informed on all things artificial intelligence and natural nonsense.
Warning: today's episode gets a bit dark as we chat with seasoned prosecutor and founder of Oper...
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December 13, 2024 • 54 mins
Note: We're posting Perry's new show, "The FAIK Files", to this feed through the end of the year. This will give you a chance to get a feel for the new show and subscribe to the new feed if you want to keep following in 2025.
Welcome back to The FAIK Files--- the show about artificial intelligence and natural nonsense!
In this week's episode:
Mason shares how ChatGPT became an unexpected hero in solving his home networking and ...
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December 6, 2024 • 53 mins
Note: We're posting Perry's new show, "The FAIK Files", to this feed through the end of the year. This will give you a chance to get a feel for the new show and subscribe to the new feed if you want to keep following in 2025.
Welcome back to The FAIK Files— the show about artificial intelligence and natural nonsense!
In this week’s episode:
Mason has an update on last week's shocking story of Google Gemini’s alleged threats aga...
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November 29, 2024 • 52 mins
Note: We're posting Perry's new show, "The FAIK Files", to this feed through the end of the year. This will give you a chance to get a feel for the new show and subscribe to the new feed if you want to keep following in 2025.
Happy FAIKs-giving everyone! Welcome to the newly renovated and relaunched FAIK Files podcast. On this week's episode, Perry & Mason cover Anthropic's recent hiring of an employee focused on AI well-being, a...
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October 7, 2024 • 31 mins
This is Part Three of a ten-part miniseries exploring Perry Carpenter's latest book, FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions. Each episode kicks off with a dramatized reading of the "Whispers from the Static" vignette that opens the chapter, followed by an in-depth conversation with Perry Carpenter and Mason Amadeus, where they unpack the chapter's themes and real-world...
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September 30, 2024 • 29 mins
This is Part Two of a ten-part miniseries exploring Perry Carpenter's latest book, FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions. Each episode kicks off with a dramatized reading of the "Whispers from the Static" vignette that opens the chapter, followed by an in-depth conversation with Perry Carpenter and Mason Amadeus, where they unpack the chapter's themes and real-world i...
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September 30, 2024 • 32 mins
This is Part One of a ten-part miniseries exploring Perry Carpenter's latest book, FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions. Each episode kicks off with a dramatized reading of the "Whispers from the Static" vignette that opens the chapter, followed by an in-depth conversation with Perry Carpenter and Mason Amadeus, where they unpack the chapter's themes and real-world i...
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September 17, 2024 • 59 mins
In this conversation, Perry sits down with Dr. Bilyana Lilly to discuss her new book Digital Mindhunters (Coming Oct 30) and the intersection of cybersecurity, disinformation, and AI. She describes the narrative structure of her book, navigating a world of cyber threats and influence operations, and the evolving landscape of disinformation with AI amplifying threats. Dr. Lilly emphasizes the importance of awareness and education in...
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September 3, 2024 • 57 mins
In this episode, Perry catches-up with Stephanie (Snow) & JC Carruthers. They talk about social engineering, the DEFCON Social Engineering Community / Village, and share their favorite (and most embarrassing) social engineering stories.
Perry also gives a quick update on his recent exploits entering an AI chatbot into the Social Engineering Village CTF, speaking at the DEFCON AI Village, and the release of his new book, FAIK: A P...
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July 30, 2024 • 55 mins
On this episode, Perry gets to sit down with Ed Skoudis to discuss the simplicity and complexities of cybersecurity ethics. Ed's new book is The Code of Honor: Embracing Ethics in Cybersecurity.
Guest:
Ed Skoudis (LinkedIn) (Twitter) (Website)
Books and References:
The Code of Honor: Embracing Ethics in Cybersecurity, by Paul J. Maurer and Ed Skoudis
The Mysterious Case of Rudolf Diesel: Genius, Power, and Deception on the Ev...
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July 9, 2024 • 49 mins
On this episode, Perry gets to sit down with Jon Gillham. Jon is the founder and CEO of Originality.ai -- an AI content detection platform designed to help website owners, content marketers, writers and publishers hit 'publish' with integrity in the world of generative AI.
In this interview, we get the lowdown on how AI content detection works, what it is good at, and where some of the current limits are.
Guest:
Jon Gillham (Link...
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June 4, 2024 • 51 mins
On this episode, Perry gets to sit down with investigative journalist, author, and podcaster, Geoff White. They discuss Geoff's new book, "Rinsed: From Cartels to Crypto: How the Tech Industry Washes Money for the World's Deadliest Crooks", the state of global cybercrime, and (everybody's favorite topic) artificial intelligence.
Guest:
Geoff White (LinkedIn) (Twitter)
Books and References:
Rinsed: From Cartels to Crypto: How t...
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May 7, 2024 • 56 mins
In this episode, Perry sits down with award winning cybersecurity author, George Finney to discuss his recent book, Project Zero Trust. This is a broad discussion that hits on the concepts of Zero Trust, George's approach to writing the book, his passion for storytelling, and much more.
Guest:
George Finney (LinkedIn) (Website)
Books and References:
Project Zero Trust: A Story about a Strategy for Aligning Security and the Busi...
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April 9, 2024 • 35 mins
In this episode Perry Carpenter sits down with Rachel Tobac to debrief after her recent KB4-CON session, "How I'd Hack You Live" where she... well... hacked Perry live. Perry and Rachel explore how age-old deception techniques are being revamped for the digital age. The discussion spans the future of social engineering, the increasing role of AI in security, and a few other fun bits.
Guest:
Rachel Tobac (LinkedIn) (Twitter / X) (...
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March 19, 2024 • 56 mins
On this episode Perry sits down with Dr. Matthew Canham to explore ways in which AI can be weaponized against us, and how age old social engineering tactics can be used to trick large language models.
Guest:
Dr. Matthew Canham (LinkedIn) (Website)
Books and References (Books are Amazon Associate Links and help support the show):
Cognitive Security Institute YouTube Channel
Cognitive Security Institute website
YouTube video: Bla...
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February 27, 2024 • 41 mins
On this episode Perry sits down with Jeremy Treadwell, a people-first technologist and futurist, to get the lowdown on how a futurist approaches the world.
Guest:
Jeremy Treadwell (LinkedIn) (Twitter)
Books and References (Books are Amazon Associate Links and help support the show):
YouTube Video: What UX/UI Taught Me about Improving Security Awareness [SANS Security Awareness Summit 2022], Jeremy Treadwell
YouTube Video: Reima...
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February 13, 2024 • 57 mins
Welcome to season 5 of 8th Layer Insights!
To celebrate Valentine's Day, Perry sits down with Emmy winning reporter Kerry Tomlinson to talk about the time she turned the tables on a romance scammer.
Guest:
Kerry Tomlinson (LinkedIn) (Website) (YouTube)
Books and References:
YouTube video: Inside a romance scam: how to make a catfisher sing
YouTube video: Scammers are stealing people's faces for live video calls
National Cybe...
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November 30, 2023 • 67 mins
On this episode, Perry celebrates the one year birthday of ChatGPT by taking a look at AI from technological, philosophical, and folkloric perspectives. We see how AI was formed based on human words and works, and how it can now shape the future of human legend and belief.
Guests:
Brandon Karpf, Vice President at N2K Networks (LinkedIn) (Website)
Dr. Lynne S. McNeill, Associate Professor at Utah State University (LinkedIn) (...
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October 24, 2023 • 53 mins
Let's face it. Most of us have a love/hate relationship with technology and technological advances. We dream about the new thing... but when it arrives, we are usually a little disappointed. Many of us also lament the constant erosion of privacy, the changes in social norms, and more. And, little-by-little, we allow those aspects of new technology to make us numb. We accept the cognitive dissonance of not totally being happy with t...
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