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The Ezra Klein Show
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New York Times Opinion

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Episodes

This Conversation Made Me a Sharper Editor

In our recent series on artificial intelligence, I kept returning to a thought: This technology might be able to churn... more

23 Apr 2024 · 53 minutes
A $1.7 Million Toilet and Liberalism's Failure to Build

There is so much we need to build right now. The housing crunch has spread across the country; by one... more

16 Apr 2024 · 49 minutes
What if Dario Amodei Is Right About A.I.?

Back in 2018, Dario Amodei worked at OpenAI. And looking at one of its first A.I. models, he wondered: What... more

12 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 32 minutes
Will A.I. Break the Internet? Or Save It?

The internet is in decay. Do a Google search, and there are so many websites now filled with slapdash content... more

05 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
How Should I Be Using A.I. Right Now?

There’s something of a paradox that has defined my experience with artificial intelligence in this particular moment. It’s clear we’re... more

02 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
The Rise of ‘Middle-Finger Politics’

Donald Trump can seem like a political anomaly. You sometimes hear people describe his connection with his base in quasi-mystical... more

29 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
Matter of Opinion: Paul Krugman on Inflation, ‘Bad Vibes’ and 2024

We’ll be back on Friday with a new episode. In the meantime, we wanted to share one of our favorite... more

26 Mar 2024 · 36 minutes
The Deep Conflict Between Our Work and Parenting Ideals

American policy is uniquely hostile to families. Other wealthy countries guarantee paid parental leave and sick days and heavily subsidize... more

22 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Birthrates Are Plummeting Worldwide. Why?

For a long time, the story about the world’s population was that it was growing too quickly. There were going... more

19 Mar 2024 · 1 hour,
What a Second Biden Term Would Look Like

President Biden gave a raucous State of the Union speech last Thursday, offering his pitch for why he should be... more

12 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
How America’s Two Abortion Realities Are Clashing

When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, it scrambled the landscape of abortion access in America, including in ways... more

08 Mar 2024 · 57 minutes
Marilynne Robinson on Biblical Beauty, Human Evil and the Idea of Israel

Marilynne Robinson is one of the great living novelists. She has won a Pulitzer Prize and a National Humanities Medal,... more

05 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
The Wars in Ukraine and Gaza Have Changed. America’s Policy Hasn’t.

Joe Biden’s presidency has been dominated by two foreign policy crises: the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. The funding the... more

01 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Your Questions on Open Conventions, a Gaza Schism and Biden’s Chances

We received thousands of questions in response to last week’s audio essay arguing that Democrats should consider choosing a candidate... more

23 Feb 2024 · 51 minutes
Here’s How an Open Democratic Convention Would Work

Last week on the show, I argued that the Democrats should pick their nominee at the Democratic National Convention in... more

21 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden

Biden is faltering and Democrats have no plan B. There is another path to winning in 2024 — and I... more

16 Feb 2024 · 25 minutes
Best Of: Status Games, Polyamory and the Merits of Meritocracy

For years, Agnes Callard has been on a mission to take ethical philosophy out of the ivory tower. She examines... more

13 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
Building the Palestinian State With Salam Fayyad

“If only we had a partner for peace.” That’s been the refrain in the Israel-Palestinian conflict for as long as I’ve... more

09 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
What Relationships Would You Want, if You Believed They Were Possible?

Around 40 percent of people who marry eventually get a divorce. Almost half of children are born to unmarried women.... more

06 Feb 2024 · 59 minutes
‘Why Haven’t the Democrats Completely Cleaned the Republicans’ Clock?’

Political analysts used to say that the Democratic Party was riding a demographic wave that would lead to an era... more

01 Feb 2024 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
‘The Strongest Democratic Party That Any of Us Have Ever Seen’

If you’re a Democrat, how worried should you be right now? It’s strangely hard to answer that question. On the... more

25 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
‘I Have No Idea How This Ends. I’ve Never Seen It So Broken.’

It’s been just over 100 days since Hamas’s attack on Israel, and the costs of the war are staggering. In... more

19 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
A Republican Pollster on Trump’s Undimmed Appeal

The fact that Donald Trump is the front-runner for the G.O.P. nomination in 2024 has created a chasm in our... more

16 Jan 2024 · 48 minutes
Should Trump Be Barred From the Ballot?

There’s this incredible dissonance at the center of our politics right now. On the one hand, all the polling suggests... more

12 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
How to Discover Your Own Taste

Being on the internet just doesn’t feel as fun anymore. As more of our digital life is driven by algorithms,... more

09 Jan 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Tired? Distracted? Burned-Out? Listen to This.

I’m convinced that attention is the most important human faculty. Your life, after all, is just the sum total of... more

05 Jan 2024 · 56 minutes
Best Of: The Most Amazing — and Dangerous — Technology in the World

“We rarely think about chips, yet they’ve created the modern world,” writes the historian Chris Miller. He’s not exaggerating. Semiconductors power... more

26 Dec 2023 · 58 minutes
Best Of: The ‘Quiet Catastrophe’ Brewing in Our Social Lives

The holidays are one of the most social times of the year, filled with parties and family get-togethers. Many of... more

22 Dec 2023 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
How the Israel-Gaza Conversations Have Shaped My Thinking

It’s become something of a tradition on “The Ezra Klein Show” to end the year with an “Ask Me Anything”... more

19 Dec 2023 · 56 minutes
India Is Transforming. But Into What?

India is known as a country of paradoxes, and a new one has recently emerged. At the same time that... more

12 Dec 2023 · 1 hour,
A Different Path Israel Could Have Taken — and Maybe Still Can

Before Oct. 7, Israel appeared to many to be sliding into a “one-state reality,” where it had functional control over... more

08 Dec 2023 · 59 minutes
‘This Is How Hamas Is Seeing This’

Here are two thoughts I believe need to be held at once: Hamas’s attack on Oct. 7 was heinous, murderous... more

05 Dec 2023 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
A Lot Has Happened in A.I. Let’s Catch Up.

Thursday marked the one-year anniversary of the release of ChatGPT. A lot has happened since. OpenAI, the makers of ChatGPT,... more

01 Dec 2023 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Best Of: This Is Your Brain on Deep Reading. It’s Pretty Magnificent.

Every day, we consume a mind-boggling amount of information. We scan online news articles, sift through text messages and emails,... more

28 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
The Best Primer I’ve Heard on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Efforts

It is too early to talk about a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians. With the trauma of Oct.... more

21 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
The Sermons I Needed to Hear Right Now

This is a conversation about the relationship between Jewishness and the Jewish State. About believing some aspects of Israel have... more

17 Nov 2023 · 56 minutes
Are Democrats Whistling Past the Graveyard?

A New York Times and Siena College poll released Nov. 5 showed Donald Trump leading Joe Biden in five of... more

14 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
What Israelis Fear the World Does Not Understand

Earlier this week, we heard a Palestinian perspective on the conflict. Today, I wanted to have on an Israeli perspective. Yossi... more

10 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
An Intense, Searching Conversation With Amjad Iraqi

Before there can be any kind of stable coexistence of people in Israel and Palestine, there will have to be... more

07 Nov 2023 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
She Polled Gazans on Oct. 6. Here’s What She Found.

The day before Hamas’s horrific attacks in Israel, the Arab Barometer, one of the leading polling operations in the Arab... more

03 Nov 2023 · 45 minutes
If Not This, Then What Should Israel Do?

“Two things are true: Israel must do something, and what it’s doing now is indefensible.” So writes Zack Beauchamp, a... more

31 Oct 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
The Conflicted Legacy of Mitt Romney

After factional infighting dominated the G.O.P.’s struggle to elect a House speaker, it feels weirdly quaint to revisit Mitt Romney’s... more

27 Oct 2023 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once

Grief moves slowly and war moves quickly. After Hamas assailants killed at least 1,400 Israelis and took hundreds more hostage,... more

24 Oct 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Israel Is Giving Hamas What It Wants

Oct. 7 was Israel’s Sept. 11. That’s been the refrain. I fear that analogy carries so much more truth than... more

18 Oct 2023 · 15 minutes
We Need Better Narratives About Gender

It’s a time of contrast and contradiction for gender queerness in America: At the same time that about 5 percent... more

10 Oct 2023 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Meet the ‘Angry, Aggrieved’ New Right

The New Right has been associated with everyone from Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri to right-wing influencers and Catholic integralists.... more

03 Oct 2023 · 53 minutes
Two Attorneys Rank the Severity of Trump’s Indictments

With four ongoing criminal investigations, Donald Trump is the most indicted president in U.S. history. After years of defying unwritten... more

26 Sep 2023 · 55 minutes
Boundaries, Burnout and the 'Goopification' of Self-Care

Love it or hate it, self-care has transformed from a radical feminist concept into a multibillion-dollar industry. But the wellness... more

19 Sep 2023 · 55 minutes
America’s Top Librarian on the Rise of Book Bans

Public libraries around the country have become major battlegrounds for today’s culture wars. In 2022, the American Library Association noted... more

12 Sep 2023 · 47 minutes
What Have We Learned From a Summer of Climate Reckoning?

This summer has been a parade of broken climate records. June was the hottest June and July was not just... more

05 Sep 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
It’s Time to Talk About ‘Pandemic Revisionism’

Should schools have been closed down? Were lockdowns a mistake? Was masking even effective? Was the economic stimulus too big? These... more

29 Aug 2023 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
When Great Power Conflict and Climate Action Collide

The global decarbonization effort is colliding headfirst with the realities of great power politics. China currently controls more than 75... more

22 Aug 2023 · 1 hour, 24 minutes
This Conservative Thinks America’s Institutions ‘Earned’ Their Distrust

You can’t understand the modern Republican Party without understanding the complete collapse of trust in mainstream institutions that has taken... more

15 Aug 2023 · 54 minutes
A Conservative on How His Party Has Changed Since 2016

The 2024 Republican presidential primary is officially underway, and Donald Trump is dominating the field. But this is a very... more

08 Aug 2023 · 56 minutes
How Martin Wolf Understands This Global Economic Moment

The world economy has experienced many shocks over the past few years: A pandemic. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Skyrocketing inflation.... more

01 Aug 2023 · 1 hour, 29 minutes
Biden, Psychedelics, Twitter, My New Book — and So Much More

As I head into a three-month book leave, I wanted to take some time to address a wide array of... more

25 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Barbara Kingsolver Thinks Urban Liberals Have It All Wrong on Appalachia

When Barbara Kingsolver set out to write her latest novel, “Demon Copperhead,” she was already considered one of the most... more

21 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 1 minute
What We Learned From the Deepest Look at Homelessness in Decades

California has around half of the nation’s unsheltered homeless population. The state’s homelessness crisis has become a talking point for... more

18 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
What Tom Hanks Thinks of America

There are few actors as widely beloved as Tom Hanks. Hanks has acted in over 75 films in his 46-year... more

14 Jul 2023 · 51 minutes
A.I. Could Solve Some of Humanity’s Hardest Problems. It Already Has.

Since the release of ChatGPT, huge amounts of attention and funding have been directed toward chatbots. These A.I. systems are... more

11 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 28 minutes
This Taught Me a Lot About How Decarbonization Is Really Going

The Inflation Reduction Act was the largest piece of climate legislation ever passed in the United States, setting aside hundreds... more

07 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 29 minutes
Best Of: A Revelatory Tour of Martin Luther King Jr.’s Forgotten Teachings

It’s hard to think of a more celebrated figure of the 20th century than Martin Luther King Jr. He has a... more

04 Jul 2023 · 1 hour, 34 minutes
What’s Really Going On in Russia?

Last weekend, in the course of about 36 hours, Vladimir Putin faced — and then survived — one of the... more

30 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
How ‘Being Animal’ Could Help Us Be Better Humans

One of the oldest human ideas is that we are somehow different from animals, somehow superior to them. That’s a... more

27 Jun 2023 · 42 minutes
Why This Economist Wants to Give Every Poor Child $50,000

“Wealth is the paramount indicator of economic prosperity and well-being,” says the economist Darrick Hamilton. He’s right. Policy analysis tends... more

23 Jun 2023 · 52 minutes
What the Heck Is Going on With These U.F.O. Stories?

Earlier this month, a news outlet called The Debrief published a story that included, to put it mildly, some explosive... more

20 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Why Do So Few Democrats Want Biden to Run in 2024?

A recent AP-NORC poll found that just a quarter of voters, including only around half of Democrats, want to see... more

16 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
What We Learned Reading Ron DeSantis's Books

Although 12 candidates have entered the Republican presidential race so far, only Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is polling anywhere... more

13 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
What Communes and Other Radical Experiments in Living Together Reveal

“Today’s future-positive writers critique our economies while largely seeming to ignore that anything might be amiss in our private lives,”... more

09 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
The Book I Wish Every Policymaker Would Read

My pitch for this episode is simple: Jennifer Pahlka has written one of the best policy books I’ve ever read. Pahlka... more

06 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 13 minutes
Beyond the ‘Matrix’ Theory of the Mind

Some thoughts on how humans think, how economies grow and why the technologies we think will help so often hurt. Column: “Beyond... more

04 Jun 2023 · 18 minutes
Fareed Zakaria on Where Russia’s War in Ukraine Stands — and Much More

A lot about the world has changed since February 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine. The war itself has brought a... more

02 Jun 2023 · 1 hour, 30 minutes
Matter of Opinion: A Look at the 2024 G.O.P. Primary Field

Today we’re bringing you an episode from the latest New York Times Opinion podcast, “Matter of Opinion.” It’s a chat... more

30 May 2023 · 32 minutes
If You’re Reading This, You’re Probably ‘WEIRD’

Here’s a little experiment. Take a second to think about how you would fill in the blank in this sentence:... more

26 May 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
The Teen Mental Health Crisis, Part 2

The data is clear: Levels of anxiety, depression, self-harm and suicide have spiked for American teenagers over the last decade.... more

23 May 2023 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
The Teen Mental Health Crisis, Part 1

We’re in the midst of a serious teen mental health crisis. The number of teenagers and young adults with clinical... more

19 May 2023 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
A Libertarian and I Debate the Debt Ceiling

On Jan. 19, the United States officially hit its debt limit. In response, the Treasury Department began using accounting maneuvers... more

16 May 2023 · 56 minutes
Best Of: A Weird, Wonderful Conversation with Kim Stanley Robinson

Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the great living science fiction writers and one of the most astute observers of... more

12 May 2023 · 1 hour, 32 minutes
Best Of: Why Adults Lose the ‘Beginner’s Mind’

Here’s a sobering thought: The older we get, the harder it is for us to learn, to question, to reimagine.... more

09 May 2023 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Best Of: How the Fed Is ‘Shaking the Entire System’

On Monday, First Republic Bank folded before being sold by regulators to JPMorgan Chase. At the time, it was the... more

05 May 2023 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
The Culture Creating A.I. Is Weird. Here’s Why That Matters.

In recent months, we’ve witnessed the rise of chatbots that can pass law and business school exams, artificial companions who’ve... more

02 May 2023 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Democrats: Pay Attention to What’s Happening in California

California is a land of contrasts. The state is home to staggering wealth, world-remaking tech companies, and some of the... more

28 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
Best Of: The War Within the Republican Party

On Monday, Fox News abruptly announced that the network and its star primetime host, Tucker Carlson, “have agreed to part... more

25 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
Matthew Desmond On America’s Addiction to Poverty

According to the Center on Poverty and Social Policy at Columbia University, 14.3 percent of Americans — nearly 50 million... more

21 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
The ‘Quiet Catastrophe’ Brewing in Our Social Lives

It’s impossible to deny that the U.S. has a serious loneliness problem. One 2018 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation... more

18 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
This Philosopher Wants Liberals to Take Political Power Seriously

America today faces a crisis of governance. In the face of numerous challenges — from climate change, to housing shortages,... more

14 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
What Biden’s Top A.I. Thinker Concluded We Should Do

In October, the White House released a 70-plus-page document called the “Blueprint for an A.I. Bill of Rights.” The document’s... more

11 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 13 minutes
Why A.I. Might Not Take Your Job or Supercharge the Economy

Typically when we put out a call for audience questions, there’s no single topic that dominates. This time was different.... more

07 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
The Most Amazing — and Dangerous — Technology in the World

“We rarely think about chips, yet they’ve created the modern world,” writes the historian Chris Miller. He’s not exaggerating. Semiconductors don’t... more

04 Apr 2023 · 57 minutes
Best Of: A Powerful Theory of Why the Far Right Is Thriving Across the Globe

In last November's midterm elections, voters placed the Republican Party in charge of the House of Representatives. In 2024, it’s... more

31 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 31 minutes
Trump’s Legal Jeopardy and America’s Political Crossroads

Donald Trump’s legal troubles are mounting. A Manhattan grand jury investigation into the hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels could soon... more

28 Mar 2023 · 58 minutes
A Radical Way of Thinking About Money

It’s been two weeks since the Silicon Valley Bank run, and we’re still feeling the ripple effects — not just... more

24 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Freaked Out? We Really Can Prepare for A.I.

OpenAI last week released its most powerful language model yet: GPT-4, which vastly outperforms its predecessor, GPT-3.5, on a variety... more

21 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 34 minutes
My View on A.I.

This is something a bit different: Not an interview, but a commentary of my own. We’ve done a lot of... more

19 Mar 2023 · 16 minutes
Why Silicon Valley Bank Collapsed — And What Comes Next

Last Friday, in the largest bank failure since 2008, Silicon Valley Bank failed. Banks fail all the time. But unless it’s... more

16 Mar 2023 · 58 minutes
How China Went From Economic Superstar to Faltering Giant

In just a few years, the narrative on China has almost completely flipped. The dominant sentiments in America had been... more

14 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
The Men — and Boys — Are Not Alright

In 1972, when Congress passed Title IX to tackle gender equity in education, men were 13 percentage points more likely... more

10 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 58 minutes
If You Read the G.O.P.’s Anti-Trans Policies, You’ll See What It Really Wants

In the 2023 legislative session alone, Republican state legislators have introduced more than a hundred bills seeking to restrict transgender... more

07 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
The Art of Noticing – and Appreciating – Our Dizzying World

“Poetry is the attempt to understand fully what is real, what is present, what is imaginable, what is feelable, and... more

03 Mar 2023 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
Our Brains Weren’t Designed for This Kind of Food

Our society’s dominant narrative is that body size is a product of individual willpower. We are skinny or fat because... more

28 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 26 minutes
Inside the Minds of Spiders, Octopuses and Artificial Intelligence

Adrian Tchaikovsky’s “Children of Time” is about an advanced civilization built by sentient spiders. A sequel, “Children of Ruin,” is... more

24 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
This Book Changed My Relationship to Pain

Physical pain is a universal human experience. And for many of us, it’s a constant one. Roughly 20 percent of... more

21 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
The Inflation Story Has Changed Dramatically. Paul Krugman Breaks It Down.

In recent months, the story of the U.S. economy has changed significantly. The January Consumer Price Index showed that annual... more

17 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
How the $500 Billion Attention Industry Really Works

For most of us, seeing an advertisement pop up while we’re scrolling on Instagram or reading an article or watching... more

14 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
The Tao of Rick Rubin

Reading Rick Rubin’s production discography is like taking a tour through the commanding heights of American music over the past... more

10 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 29 minutes
How Liberals — Yes, Liberals — Are Hobbling Government

In my columns and on this show over the past few years, I’ve argued that to achieve the goals liberals... more

07 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
Best Of: Why Housing Is So Expensive — Particularly in Blue States

Ezra is out sick, so today, we’re sharing one of our favorite conversations — with Jenny Schuetz, a senior fellow at... more

03 Feb 2023 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
First Person: How the Left Is Cannibalizing Its Own Power

Ezra is out sick, so today, we're sharing an episode from the New York Times Opinion podcast, “First Person.” Each... more

31 Jan 2023 · 36 minutes
Is This How a Cold War With China Begins?

There are few issues on which the dominant consensus in Washington has changed as rapidly in recent years as it... more

27 Jan 2023 · 51 minutes
There’s Been a Revolution in How China Is Governed

There are few stories that are more crucial to the world’s future than what’s happening in China. Take any of... more

24 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 19 minutes
How Right-Wing Media Ate the Republican Party

In recent weeks, America got a preview of how the new Republican House majority would wield its power. In attempting... more

20 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
A Revelatory Tour of Martin Luther King Jr.’s Forgotten Teachings

It’s hard to think of a more celebrated figure of the 20th century than Martin Luther King Jr. He has a... more

16 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 33 minutes
A Guide to the ‘Legal Fictions’ That Create Wealth, Inequality and Economic Crises

“Capitalism, it turns out, is more than just the exchange of goods in a market economy,” Katharina Pistor writes. “It... more

13 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 34 minutes
Dan Savage on Polyamory, Chosen Family and Better Sex

Even if you don’t recognize the advice columnist Dan Savage by name, it’s possible that his ideas have influenced how... more

10 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 24 minutes
A Skeptical Take on the A.I. Revolution

The year 2022 was jam-packed with advances in artificial intelligence, from the release of image generators like DALL-E 2 and... more

06 Jan 2023 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Sabbath and the Art of Rest

Do we know how to truly rest? Who would we be if we did? I’ve been wrestling with these questions since... more

03 Jan 2023 · 1 hour,
Best Of: How America's Poet Laureate Sees Our World

​​“One of the biggest things about poetry is that it holds all of humanity,” the poet Ada Limón tells me.... more

30 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
Best Of: Want to Save Democracy? Run For Office.

This week, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from the year. For those who make New Year’s resolutions, today’s... more

27 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Best Of: Who Wins — and Who Loses — in the A.I. Revolution?

This past year, we’ve witnessed considerable progress in the development of artificial intelligence, from the release of the image generators... more

23 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
Best Of: Is A.I. the Problem? Or Are We?

This past year, we’ve witnessed considerable progress in the development of artificial intelligence, from the release of the image generators... more

20 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
What I'm Thinking About at the End of 2022

As 2022 comes to a close, we decided to invite listeners to send in questions for an ask-me-anything episode. And... more

16 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Time Is Way Weirder Than You Think

It’s not an exaggeration to say that “clock time” runs our lives. From the moment our alarms go off in... more

13 Dec 2022 · 53 minutes
Three Signals We’ve Entered a New Economic Era

“From the U.S. Federal Reserve’s initial misjudgment that inflation would be ‘transitory’ to the current consensus that a probable U.S.... more

09 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
There’s Been a Massive Change in Where American Policy Gets Made

Since 2021, Democrats have controlled the House, the Senate and the presidency, and they’ve used that power to pass consequential... more

06 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
A Conservative’s Take on the Chaotic State of the Republican Party

Republicans already hold tremendous power in America. They have appointed six of the nine current Supreme Court justices. They have... more

02 Dec 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
The Hidden Costs of Cheap Meat

About 50 years ago, beef cost more than $7 a pound in today’s dollars. Today, despite high inflation, beef is... more

29 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 21 minutes
This Conversation About the 'Reading Mind' Is a Gift

Every day, we consume a mind-boggling amount of information. We scan online news articles, sift through text messages and emails,... more

22 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Bill McKibben on the Power That Could Save the Planet

The fight against climate change is at a crossroads. This past year, the climate movement in the United States achieved significant... more

15 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 24 minutes
I Don’t Quite Buy the DeSantis Narrative, and Other Midterm Thoughts

The results of Tuesday’s midterm elections are still trickling in, but the broader story is clear: The red wave that... more

10 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
George Saunders on the ‘Braindead Megaphone’ That Makes Our Politics So Awful

George Saunders is regarded as one of our greatest living fiction writers. He won the Booker Prize in 2017 for... more

08 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Inflation Does More Than Raise Prices. It Destroys Governments.

“One can usually pretend that there is a logic to the distribution of wealth — that behind a person’s prosperity... more

04 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
A Powerful Theory of Why the Far Right Is Thriving Across the Globe

As we approach the 2022 midterms, the outlook for American democracy doesn’t appear promising. An increasingly Trumpist, anti-democratic Republican Party... more

01 Nov 2022 · 1 hour, 30 minutes
These Political Scientists Surveyed 500,000 Voters. Here Are Their Unnerving Conclusions.

How does the popularity of a president’s policies impact his or her party’s electoral chances? Why have Latinos — and... more

28 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 33 minutes
A Step-by-Step Guide to Becoming a Trump Enabler

​​“What would you do for your relevance?” the political journalist Mark Leibovich asks in his new book, “Thank You for... more

25 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
There’s Been a ‘Regime Change’ in How Democrats Think About Elections

According to the conventional rules of politics, Democrats should be on track for electoral disaster this November. Joe Biden’s approval... more

21 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
A Legendary World-Builder on Multiverses, Revolution and the ‘Souls’ of Cities

N.K. Jemisin is a fantasy and science-fiction writer who won three consecutive Hugo Awards — considered the highest honor in... more

18 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
What Rachel Maddow Has Been Thinking About Offscreen

“The Rachel Maddow Show” debuted in the interregnum between political eras. Before it lay the 9/11 era and the George... more

14 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 23 minutes
Hard Fork: Elon’s Hidden Motives + A Meetup in the Metaverse

Today we’re bringing you an episode from the recently launched New York Times podcast, Hard Fork. Hosted by veteran tech... more

11 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
How the Fed Is ‘Shaking the Entire System’

“There are moments when history making creeps up on you,” writes the economic historian Adam Tooze. “This is one of... more

07 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
When You Can’t Trust the Stories Your Mind Is Telling

The National Institute of Mental Health estimates that nearly one in five adults in America lives with a mental illness.... more

04 Oct 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Ethereum’s Founder on What Crypto Can — and Can’t — Do

When most people hear “crypto,” the first thing they think of is “currencies.” Cryptocurrencies have skyrocketed in popularity over the... more

30 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 37 minutes
We Know So Little About What Makes Humanity Prosper

Why do some countries produce far more science Nobel laureates than others? Why did Silicon Valley happen in California rather... more

27 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 31 minutes
Why Russia Is Losing the War in Ukraine

When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, the question most analysts were asking was not whether Russia would win. It was... more

23 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
The Single Best Guide to Decarbonization I’ve Heard

In August, Joe Biden signed into law the Inflation Reduction Act, which included $392 billion towards a new climate budget... more

20 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 41 minutes
Now All Biden Has to Do Is Build It

In the past few months, Joe Biden’s agenda has gone from a failed promise to real legislation. Taken together, the CHIPS... more

16 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
We Build Civilizations on Status. But We Barely Understand It.

“We see status virtually everywhere in social life, if we think to look for it,” writes Cecilia Ridgeway. “It suffuses... more

13 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 29 minutes
Opinion Roundtable: Behind America’s Public School Battles

Today we’re bringing you a special episode from New York Times Opinion: a roundtable, hosted by Lulu Garcia-Navarro, about how... more

10 Sep 2022 · 40 minutes
The Subtle Art of Appreciating ‘Difficult Beauty’

When is the last time you paused — truly paused the flow of life — to appreciate something beautiful? For... more

06 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Best Of: This Conversation With Richard Powers Is a Gift

Today we're revisiting one of our favorite conversations from 2021 with the novelist Richard Powers. Enjoy! There are certain conversations I... more

02 Sep 2022 · 1 hour, 24 minutes
A Grammy-Nominated Singer Performs and Explores Music's Power

In times of deep sorrow or joy, humans have always turned to music. Archaeologists have found evidence of instruments among... more

30 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 21 minutes
Best Of: Margaret Atwood on the Bible and the Future

Today we're revisiting one of our favorite episodes from this year, with the prolific writer Margaret Atwood. A good rule of... more

26 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why the Evangelical Movement Is in ‘Disarray’ After Dobbs

With Roe now overturned, the evangelical movement has achieved one of its decades-old political priorities. But for many evangelicals, this... more

23 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Best of: A Life-Changing Philosophy of Games

Today, we’re re-airing one of my favorite episodes of all time. It was originally recorded in February of 2022, but... more

19 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
The Office is Dying. It’s Time to Rethink How We Work.

Over the past year, many places have returned to something approximating a prepandemic normal. Restaurants are filling up again. Airports... more

16 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 32 minutes
How Do We Face Loss With Dignity?

In his latest work, “The Last White Man,” the award-winning writer Mohsin Hamid imagines a world that is very like... more

12 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
Three Sentences That Could Change the World — and Your Life

Today’s show is built around three simple sentences: “Future people count. There could be a lot of them. And we... more

09 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Gender Is Complicated for All of Us. Let’s Talk About It.

It’s hard to think of anything changing more quickly in our society right now than our understanding of gender. There’s... more

05 Aug 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
The Argument: Who Can Write About What?

Today we're bringing you an episode from our friends at The Argument, about cultural appropriation in creative work. In recent... more

02 Aug 2022 · 27 minutes
Best Of: Ruth Ozeki’s Enchanted Relationship to Minds and Possessions

Today we're taking a short break and re-releasing one of our favorite episodes from 2022, a conversation with the novelist... more

29 Jul 2022 · 58 minutes
The Mid-Century Media Theorists Who Saw What Was Coming

“At the very heart of democracy is a contradiction that cannot be resolved, one that has affected free societies from... more

26 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
A Top Mental Health Expert on Where America Went Wrong

There’s a paradox that sits at the center of our mental health conversation in America. On the one hand, our... more

22 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Why Housing Is So Expensive — Particularly in Blue States

America is experiencing a housing crisis — or, more accurately, multiple housing crises. A massive housing shortage in major cities... more

19 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
A Weird, Wonderful Conversation With Kim Stanley Robinson

Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the great living science fiction writers and one of the most astute observers of... more

15 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 32 minutes
First Person: To Fight for Ukraine’s Freedom, He Went Back Into the Closet

Today, we're bringing you an episode from the recently launched New York Times Opinion podcast, “First Person,” hosted by Lulu... more

12 Jul 2022 · 38 minutes
Michelle Goldberg Grapples With Feminism After Roe

“It’s true: We’re in trouble,” writes Michelle Goldberg of the modern feminist movement. “One thing backlashes do is transform a... more

08 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
Liberals Need a Clearer Vision of the Constitution. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

For decades now, the conservative legal movement has been on a mission to remake this nation’s laws from the bench.... more

05 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 13 minutes
A Guide to the Supreme Court's Rightward Shift

In the past few weeks alone, the Supreme Court has delivered a firestorm of conservative legal victories. States now have... more

01 Jul 2022 · 1 hour, 34 minutes
The Supreme Court Went Off the Rails Long Before Dobbs

On Friday, a Supreme Court majority voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. On Sunday, we released an episode with Dahlia... more

28 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
The Dobbs Decision Isn’t Just About Abortion. It’s About Power.

On Friday, a Supreme Court majority voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Nearly all abortions are already banned in at... more

26 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 13 minutes
The Case for Prosecuting Trump

The Jan. 6 hearings have made it clear that Donald Trump led a concerted, monthslong effort to overturn a democratic... more

24 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
Two Years Later, We Still Don’t Understand Long Covid. Why?

Depending on the data you look at, between 10 and 40 percent of people who get Covid will still have... more

21 Jun 2022 · 57 minutes
The End of 'The Everything Bubble'

This week, the S&P 500 entered what analysts refer to as a bear market. The index has plunged around 22... more

17 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Is Climate Change a Reason to Avoid Having Children? and Other Listener Questions Answered

It’s that time of year, when we invite listeners to send in questions, and I answer them on the air.... more

14 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Socialism Is Supposed to Be a Working-Class Movement. Why Isn’t It?

American socialists today find themselves in a tenuous position. Over the past decade, the left has become a powerful force... more

10 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Thomas Piketty’s Case For ‘Participatory Socialism’

The French economist Thomas Piketty is arguably the world’s greatest chronicler of economic inequality. For decades now, he has collected... more

07 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 1 minute
A Conservative's View on Democrats' Biggest Weakness

“There is definitely a contest for the future of the center right,” says Reihan Salam, the president of the Manhattan... more

03 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
Sex, Abortion and Feminism, as Seen From the Right

For decades, the conservative position on abortion has been simple: Appoint justices who will overturn Roe V. Wade. That aspiration... more

31 May 2022 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
Best Of: Nikole Hannah-Jones and Ta-Nehisi Coates on the Fight Over U.S. History

What does it mean to reckon with the violence, the tragedy, and the numerous contradictions of America? That is the... more

27 May 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
A Conversation With Ada Limón, in Six Poems

​​“One of the biggest things about poetry is that it holds all of humanity,” the poet Ada Limón tells me.... more

24 May 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
The Ethics of Abortion

When Justice Samuel Alito’s draft opinion on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization leaked a few weeks ago, it signaled... more

20 May 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
Anne Applebaum on What Liberals Misunderstand About Authoritarianism

The experience of reading Hannah Arendt’s 1951 classic “The Origins of Totalitarianism” in the year 2022 is a disorienting one.... more

17 May 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
What Does the ‘Post-Liberal Right’ Actually Want?

“It begun to dawn on many conservatives that in spite of apparent electoral victories that have occurred regularly since the... more

13 May 2022 · 1 hour, 37 minutes
Sway: 'Fear and Panic Are Bedfellows' in Ukraine

Today we're bringing you an episode from our friends at Sway about the war in Ukraine and the challenges of... more

10 May 2022 · 42 minutes
Donald Trump Didn’t Hijack the G.O.P. He Understood It.

Right now, Republicans of all stripes — Ron DeSantis, J.D. Vance, Mike Pence, Glenn Youngkin — are trying to figure... more

06 May 2022 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
The Argument: Why the G.O.P. Can't Stop Saying 'Gay'

Today we're bringing you an episode from our friends at The Argument about Florida's “Don't Say Gay” bill and the... more

03 May 2022 · 39 minutes
Elon Musk Might Break Twitter. Maybe That's a Good Thing.

If Elon Musk’s bid to purchase Twitter comes to fruition, the world’s richest person will own one of its most... more

29 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Putin May Not Like How He’s Changed Europe

Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has transformed Europe within a matter of weeks. A continent once fractured by the refugee... more

26 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
Emily St. John Mandel on Time Travel, Parenting and the Apocalypse

“Station Eleven” by Emily St. John Mandel was published in 2014. That book imagined the world after a pandemic had... more

22 Apr 2022 · 59 minutes
Can Democrats Turn Their 2022 Around?

With the midterms just over six months away, the electoral prospects for Democrats are looking bleak. President Biden’s approval rating... more

19 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 7 minutes
Best Of: This Conversation Will Change How You Think About Trauma

“Trauma is much more than a story about something that happened long ago,” writes Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. “The... more

15 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
A Ukrainian Philosopher on What Putin Never Understood About Ukraine

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is only getting more brutal: We’ve seen the bodies of civilians strewn in the streets in... more

12 Apr 2022 · 47 minutes
Fiona Hill on Whether Ukraine Can Win — and What Happens if Russia Loses

The Russia-Ukraine war has changed considerably in recent weeks. Vladimir Putin is no longer talking explicitly about regime change in... more

08 Apr 2022 · 47 minutes
The Most Thorough Case Against Crypto I've Heard

The hype around cryptocurrencies has reached a fever pitch. There are Super Bowl ads for crypto companies featuring celebrities like... more

05 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 21 minutes
Sanctioning Russia Is a Form of War. We Need to Treat It Like One.

The Russian political scientist Ilya Matveev recently described the impact of the West’s sanctions on his country as “30 years... more

01 Apr 2022 · 1 hour, 20 minutes
I Keep Hoping Larry Summers Is Wrong. What if He’s Not?

“There is a chance that macroeconomic stimulus on a scale closer to World War II levels than normal recession levels... more

29 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 17 minutes
Margaret Atwood on Stories, Deception and the Bible

A good rule of thumb is that whatever Margaret Atwood is worried about now is likely what the rest of... more

25 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
How Energy Markets Are Shaping Putin’s Invasion — and the World

Nearly every dimension of the Ukraine-Russia conflict has been shaped by energy markets. Russia’s oil and gas exports have long been... more

22 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
A Realist Take on How the Russia-Ukraine War Could End

As we enter the fourth week of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, many of the possible pathways this conflict could take... more

18 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Timothy Snyder on the Myths That Blinded the West to Putin’s Plans

“Americans and Europeans were guided through the new century by a tale about ‘the end of history,’ by what I... more

15 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 11 minutes
Masha Gessen on Putin’s 'Profoundly Anti-Modern’ Worldview

For Western audiences, the past few weeks have been a torrent of information about what’s happening in Russia and Ukraine.... more

11 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Fiona Hill on the War Putin Is Really Fighting

Vladimir Putin was looking for a swift invasion that would halt Ukraine’s drift toward the West, reveal NATO’s fractures and... more

08 Mar 2022 · 58 minutes
Fareed Zakaria Has a Better Way to Handle Russia — and China

“Russia’s utterly unprovoked, unjustifiable, immoral invasion of Ukraine would seem to mark the end of an era,” writes Fareed Zakaria,... more

04 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Can the West Stop Russia by Strangling its Economy?

There’s the Russia-Ukraine war that’s easy to follow in the news right now. We can watch Russian bombs falling on... more

01 Mar 2022 · 1 hour, 35 minutes
A Philosophy of Games That Is Really a Philosophy of Life

When we play Monopoly or basketball, we know we are playing a game. The stakes are low. The rules are... more

25 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
Best Of: Stop. Breathe. We Can’t Keep Working Like This.

We were promised, with the internet, a productivity revolution. We were told that we’d get more done, in less time,... more

22 Feb 2022 · 54 minutes
A Critique of Government That Liberals Need to Hear

Government is a bureaucratic, slow-moving institution. It’s too easily captured by special interests. It’s often incapable of acting at the... more

18 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 16 minutes
Relationships Are Hard. This Unusual Parenting Theory Can Help.

This is one of those episodes I feel I need to sell. Because on one level, it’s about an unusual... more

15 Feb 2022 · 1 hour,
It's Not Your Fault You Can't Pay Attention. Here's Why.

“The sensation of being alive in the early 21st century consisted of the sense that our ability to pay attention... more

11 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
What the Heck Is Going on With the U.S. Economy?

Should we be celebrating a Biden boom? Lamenting inflation and its consequences? Both? We know how to talk about booms, like... more

08 Feb 2022 · 1 hour,
Let’s Talk About How Truly Bizarre Our Supreme Court Is

“Getting race wrong early has led courts to get everything else wrong since,” writes Jamal Greene. But he probably doesn’t... more

04 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Democrats Chase Shiny Objects. Here's How to Build Real Power.

There’s good reason to worry about the future of democracy, and little reason to believe Democrats have a viable plan... more

01 Feb 2022 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Learning to Listen to the Voices Only You Hear

The world has gotten louder, even when we’re alone. A day spent in isolation can still mean a day buffeted... more

25 Jan 2022 · 59 minutes
The View From the White House

It’s been a year since Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th president of the United States. And what... more

21 Jan 2022 · 45 minutes
The Pandemic Lessons We Clearly Haven’t Learned

I remember thinking, as Covid ravaged the country in December 2020, that at least the holidays the next year would... more

18 Jan 2022 · 1 hour, 15 minutes
Chris Hayes on How Biden Can Have a Better 2022

Nothing like a newborn and paternity leave to leave you feeling a bit out of the loop. So for my... more

11 Jan 2022 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Best Of: This Conversation Will Change How You Think About Thinking

For decades, our society’s dominant metaphor for the mind has been a computer. A machine that operates the exact same... more

04 Jan 2022 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Best Of: Why Sci-Fi Legend Ted Chiang Fears Capitalism, Not A.I.

For years, I’ve kept a list of dream guests for this show. And as long as that list has existed,... more

28 Dec 2021 · 50 minutes
Best Of: Noam Chomsky's Theory of the Good Life

How do you introduce Noam Chomsky? Perhaps you start here: In 1979, The New York Times called him “arguably the... more

21 Dec 2021 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
Timeless Wisdom for Leading a Life of Love, Friendship and Learning

“Today, we are supercompetent when it comes to efficiency, utility, speed, convenience, and getting ahead in the world; but we... more

14 Dec 2021 · 1 hour, 5 minutes
Families Are Drowning in Care Costs. Here’s How To Change That.

Every day in the United States, more than 10,000 babies are born and 10,000 people turn 65. But America doesn’t... more

07 Dec 2021 · 53 minutes
Predicting the Future Is Possible. ‘Superforecasters’ Know How.

Can we predict the future more accurately? It’s a question we humans have grappled with since the dawn of civilization —... more

03 Dec 2021 · 52 minutes
Best Of: How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable

Joe Biden’s economic agenda is centered on a basic premise: The United States needs to build. To build roads and... more

30 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 8 minutes
Why Is Murder Spiking? And Can Cities Address It Without Police?

In 2020 the United States experienced a nearly 30 percent rise in homicides from 2019. That’s the single biggest one-year... more

23 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
The Case Against Loving Your Job

The compulsion to be happy at work “is always a demand for emotional work from the worker,” writes Sarah Jaffe.... more

19 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 22 minutes
Are We Witnessing the Mainstreaming of White Power in America?

Over the course of Donald Trump’s presidency, the far-right fringe became a surprisingly visible and influential force in American politics.... more

16 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 9 minutes
It's Time for the Media to Choose: Neutrality or Democracy?

“Making it harder to vote, and harder to understand what the party is really about — these are two parts... more

12 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
Two Acclaimed Writers on the Art of Revising Your Life

Many of the most contentious debates right now center on whether we, as individuals — and as a country —... more

09 Nov 2021 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Best Of: How Octopuses Upend What We Know About Ourselves

I’ve been on an octopus kick for a little while now. In that, I don’t seem to be alone. Octopuses... more

05 Nov 2021 · 56 minutes
The Life-Altering Differences Between White and Black Debt

Public policy in the United States often overlooks wealth. We tend to design, debate and measure our economic policies with... more

02 Nov 2021 · 58 minutes
Why This Conservative Wants a More Radical Republican Party

“Progressives understand that culture war means discrediting their opponents and weakening or destroying their institutions. Conservatives should approach the culture... more

29 Oct 2021 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
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“Progressives understand that culture war means discrediting their opponents and weakening or destroying their institutions. Conservatives should approach the culture war with... more