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The Ezra Klein Show
The Ezra Klein Show
New York Times Opinion

Each Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if... more

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The Real Danger Within the Democratic Party of a Fundamental Crack-Up

It was once a fringe opinion to say President Biden should drop his re-election bid and Democrats should embrace an... more

09 Jul 2024 · 55 minutes
Is Kamala Harris Underrated?

If Joe Biden steps aside for the Democratic presidential nomination — still a very big if — the favorite to... more

05 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
How an Open Democratic Convention Would Work

After President Biden’s rough performance at the first presidential debate, the question of an open convention has roared to the... more

02 Jul 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
What Is the Democratic Party For?

Top Democrats have closed ranks around Joe Biden since the debate. Should they? Mentioned: “This Isn’t All Joe Biden’s Fault” by... more

30 Jun 2024 · 17 minutes
After That Debate, the Risk of Biden Is Clear

I joined my Times Opinion colleagues Ross Douthat and Michelle Cottle to discuss the debate — and what Democrats might... more

28 Jun 2024 · 51 minutes
Trump’s Bold Vision for America: Higher Prices!

Donald Trump has made inflation a central part of his campaign message. At his rallies, he rails against “the Biden... more

21 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 32 minutes
The Biggest Political Divide Is Not Left vs. Right

The biggest divide in our politics isn’t between Democrats and Republicans, or even left and right. It’s between people who... more

18 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 10 minutes
The View From the Israeli Right

On Tuesday I got back from an eight-day trip to Israel and the West Bank. I happened to be there... more

14 Jun 2024 · 55 minutes
The Economic Theory That Explains Why Americans Are So Mad

There’s something weird happening with the economy. On a personal level, most Americans say they’re doing pretty well right now.... more

07 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 31 minutes
The Republican Party’s Decay Began Long Before Trump

After Donald Trump was convicted last week in his hush-money trial, Republican leaders wasted no time in rallying behind him.... more

04 Jun 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Your Mind Is Being Fracked

The steady dings of notifications. The 40 tabs that greet you when you open your computer in the morning. The... more

31 May 2024 · 1 hour, 12 minutes
‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

A.I.-generated art has flooded the internet, and a lot of it is derivative, even boring or offensive. But what could... more

24 May 2024 · 51 minutes
A Conservative Futurist and a Supply-Side Liberal Walk Into a Podcast …

“The Jetsons” premiered in 1962. And based on the internal math of the show, George Jetson, the dad, was born... more

21 May 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
The Disastrous Relationship Between Israel, Palestinians and the U.N.

The international legal system was created to prevent the atrocities of World War II from happening again. The United Nations... more

17 May 2024 · 57 minutes
This Is a Very Weird Moment in the History of Drug Laws

Drug policy feels very unsettled right now. The war on drugs was a failure. But so far, the war on... more

10 May 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Watching the Protests From Israel

Ultimately, the Gaza war protests sweeping campuses are about influencing Israeli politics. The protesters want to use economic divestment, American... more

07 May 2024 · 1 hour, 4 minutes
Is Green Growth Possible?

A decade ago, I was feeling pretty pessimistic about climate change. The politics of mitigating global warming just seemed impossible:... more

30 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Salman Rushdie Is Not Who You Think He Is

Salman Rushdie’s 1988 novel, “The Satanic Verses,” made him the target of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who denounced the book as... more

26 Apr 2024 · 59 minutes
This Conversation Made Me a Sharper Editor

In our recent series on artificial intelligence, I kept returning to a thought: This technology might be able to churn... more

23 Apr 2024 · 53 minutes
A $1.7 Million Toilet and Liberalism's Failure to Build

There is so much we need to build right now. The housing crunch has spread across the country; by one... more

16 Apr 2024 · 49 minutes
What if Dario Amodei Is Right About A.I.?

Back in 2018, Dario Amodei worked at OpenAI. And looking at one of its first A.I. models, he wondered: What... more

12 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 32 minutes
Will A.I. Break the Internet? Or Save It?

The internet is in decay. Do a Google search, and there are so many websites now filled with slapdash content... more

05 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 25 minutes
How Should I Be Using A.I. Right Now?

There’s something of a paradox that has defined my experience with artificial intelligence in this particular moment. It’s clear we’re... more

02 Apr 2024 · 1 hour, 14 minutes
The Rise of ‘Middle-Finger Politics’

Donald Trump can seem like a political anomaly. You sometimes hear people describe his connection with his base in quasi-mystical... more

29 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 18 minutes
Matter of Opinion: Paul Krugman on Inflation, ‘Bad Vibes’ and 2024

We’ll be back on Friday with a new episode. In the meantime, we wanted to share one of our favorite... more

26 Mar 2024 · 36 minutes
The Deep Conflict Between Our Work and Parenting Ideals

American policy is uniquely hostile to families. Other wealthy countries guarantee paid parental leave and sick days and heavily subsidize... more

22 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 6 minutes
Birthrates Are Plummeting Worldwide. Why?

For a long time, the story about the world’s population was that it was growing too quickly. There were going... more

19 Mar 2024 · 1 hour,
What a Second Biden Term Would Look Like

President Biden gave a raucous State of the Union speech last Thursday, offering his pitch for why he should be... more

12 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 1 minute
How America’s Two Abortion Realities Are Clashing

When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, it scrambled the landscape of abortion access in America, including in ways... more

08 Mar 2024 · 57 minutes
Marilynne Robinson on Biblical Beauty, Human Evil and the Idea of Israel

Marilynne Robinson is one of the great living novelists. She has won a Pulitzer Prize and a National Humanities Medal,... more

05 Mar 2024 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
The Ezra Klein Show
How Should I Be Using A.I. Right Now?
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There’s something of a paradox that has defined my experience with artificial intelligence in this particular moment. It’s clear we’re witnessing the... more