That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
May 14, 2024 • 123 mins
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza cover SVU’s “Resilience” (Season 4, Episode 10), the horrific murders committed by serial killers Fred and Rosemary West, and talk with actor Rachael Bella (The Ring).
SOURCES:
BBC
Wikipedia - Rose West
CNN
NBC News
Record-Courier
The Blade
Daily Kent Stater
MoreLaw
Akron Beacon Journal
Cleveland Scene
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Zero Abuse Project
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May 7, 2024 • 126 mins
Today, Liza and Kara cover “Honor” (Season 2, Episode 2) and the murder of Tina Isa. Plus, they interview the prolific Aasif Mandvi.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Honor killing
Wikipedia - Murder of Tina Isa
Amnesty International USA
PBS
National Center for Biotechnology Information
People
KTVI
Guarding the Secrets
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
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World Central Kitchen
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April 30, 2024 • 150 mins
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Girl Dishonored” (Season 14, Episode 20), discuss a variety of college fraternity-related crimes, and interview the multi-talented musician and actor Skyler Day (Parenthood).
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Clery Act
Wikipedia - Murder of Laura Dickinson
Wikipedia - Death of Lizzy Seeberg
The Arizona Republic
The Amherst Student
ABC News
National Catholic Reporter
Buzzfeed
Gothamist
USA Today
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April 23, 2024 • 127 mins
Kara and Liza break down “Twenty-Five Acts” (Season 14, Episode 3) and discuss the David Letterman blackmail scandal.
SOURCES:
ABC News 1
ABC News 2
ABC News 3
ABC News 4
ABC News 5
Wikipedia - Stephanie Birkitt
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
CNN
Vanity Fair
The New York Times
The Washington Post
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Sexual Boundaries: How to Set Them
Next week’s episode will be “Girl Dishonored” (Season 14, Episode 20).
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April 16, 2024 • 131 mins
Liza and Kara recap “Penetration” (Season 12, Episode 8), revisit the case of Matthew Hale and his target Judge Joan Lefkow, and interview Scorcese and SVU regular, J.C. MacKenzie.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Park51
Wikipedia - Joan Lefkow
Park51.org
The New York Times
New York Post
Los Angeles Times
Chicago Tribune
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Southern Poverty Law Center
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April 9, 2024 • 149 mins
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza cover SVU’s “Stocks & Bondage” (Season 1; Episode 9), the cases of financial criminal Martin Frankel and homicide victim Sharon Lopatka, and talk with playwright, TV writer and Dick Wolf Universe regular, Geoffrey Nauffts.
SOURCES:
CNBC
Hartford Courant
Greenwich Time
Toledo Blade
Independent
Washington Post - 1
Washington Post - 2
Wall Street Journal - 1
Wall Street Journal - 2
Wall Street Jou...
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April 2, 2024 • 84 mins
Today, Liza and Kara cover “Missing Pieces” (Season 13, Episode 5) and the hoax perpetrated by Joseph Bales and Helene Lemay.
SOURCES:
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
Washington Post
Tampa Bay Times
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CDC: SIDS
Next week’s episode will be “Stocks & Bondage” (Season 1, Episode 9).
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March 26, 2024 • 147 mins
This week, Kara and Liza recap “Crush” (Season 10, Episode 20), the Kids for Cash scandal, and interview the SVU character we all love to hate, Dale Stuckey, aka the wonderful Noel Fisher.
SOURCES:
Juvenile Law Center
AP News - 1
AP News - 2
"Kids for Cash"
Philadelphia Inquirer
NBC News
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
CNN
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"Kids for Cash" Documentary
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March 19, 2024 • 90 mins
On today’s episode, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Perverted Justice” (Season 16, Episode 21) and the story of Chaneya Kelly.
SOURCES:
The New Yorker
New York Magazine
NBC News
Change.org
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Innocence Project
Next week’s episode will be “Crush” (Season 10, Episode 20).
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March 12, 2024 • 143 mins
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza break down “Cage” (Season 8, Episode 8), the cases of Michael & Sharen Gravelle and the tragic death of Candace Newmaker, and talk to the Dick Wolf Universe mainstay, Marlyne Barrett.
SOURCES:
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
NY Times - 3
NY Times - 4
NY Times - 5
NY Times - 6
NY Times - 7
NY Times - 8
NY Times - 9
NY Times - 10
NY Times - 11
Cleveland.com - 1
Cleveland.com - 2
CBS News
NPR
NY Post
Th...
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March 5, 2024 • 136 mins
Liza and Kara cover “Internal Affairs” (Season 15, Episode 4), the NYPD scandals uncovered by Adrian Schoolcraft, and talk with a very talented actor they serendipitously met on an airplane, Marc Menchaca.
SOURCES:
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
NY Times - 3
NY Times - 4
NY Times - 5
NY Post
Village Voice
Wikipedia
50-a.org - 1
50-a.org - 2
50-a.org - 3
50-a.org - 4
50-a.org - 5
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ACLU - "Taking Action to Stop Po...
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February 27, 2024 • 114 mins
On today’s episode, Kara and Liza recap SVU’s “Townhouse Incident” (Season 17, Episode 11) and break down the horrific Cheshire home invasion murders.
SOURCES:
Washington Post
Wikipedia
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
ABC News
NY Post
The Cheshire Murders (HBO)
New Haven Register
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Petit Family Foundation
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February 20, 2024 • 106 mins
In this week’s episode, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Down Low in Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 21, Episode 3), the Jussie Smollett hate crime hoax, and interview the charming L. Steven Taylor.
SOURCES:
BBC
Fox 5 DC
NY Times
Variety
Wikipedia - 1
Wikipedia - 2
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Human Rights Campaign
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February 13, 2024 • 165 mins
This week, Kara and Liza break down “Juvenile” (Season 4, Episode 9) and cover the two cases it’s based on, the murder of Ruth Pelke and the conviction of Lionel Tate. Plus, they interview the legendary Becky Ann Baker.
SOURCES:
Rolling Stone
USA Today
Death Penalty Information Center
Indy Star
CNN
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
ABC7 Chicago - 1
ABC7Chicago - 2
Tampa Bay Times
CBS News - 1
CBS News - 2
Ocala StarBanner - 1
Ocala StarBan...
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February 6, 2024 • 112 mins
Today, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “A Story of More Woe” (Season 20, Episode 13), the mysterious murder of Terry King, and chat with the talented Mark Tallman.
SOURCES:
CBS News - 1
CBS News - 2
NY Times - 1
NY Times - 2
NY Times - 3
Wikipedia
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"A Perversion of Justice: A Southern Tragedy of Murder, Lies, and Innocence Betrayed"
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January 30, 2024 • 122 mins
On today’s episode, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Heightened Emotions” (Season 18, Episode 4), the wild story of Olympian Suzy Favor Hamilton, and interview the talented Brit Morgan.
SOURCES:
Olympics.com
International Bipolar Foundation
ABC News
People
Yahoo
The New Yorker
Elle
Sports Illustrated
Times of San Diego
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Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance (DBSA)
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January 23, 2024 • 117 mins
This week, Liza and Kara recap SVU’s “Blood” (Season 6, Episode 21) and break down the case against Cynthia Ann Pinson. Plus, guests are back with a bang, with none other than Stabler’s daughter Kathleen, Allison Siko.
SOURCES:
LA Times
Wikipedia
WBAL-TV 11 News
PubMed
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ElderAbuse.org
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January 16, 2024 • 88 mins
Today, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Dependent” (Season 8, Episode 14) and dissect the horrific murders perpetrated by 12-year-old Jasmine Richardson and her 23-year-old boyfriend Jeremy Steinke.
SOURCES:
The New Zealand Herald
Daily Star
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Futures Without Violence
Next week’s episode will be “Blood” (Season 6, Episode 21).
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January 9, 2024 • 87 mins
In this week’s episode, Liza and Kara recap “Baby Killer” (Season 2, Episode 5) and discuss the heartbreaking murder of Kayla Rolland.
SOURCES:
The New York Times
ABC News
Wikipedia - Killing of Kayla Rolland
CNN
MLive.com
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Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America
Next week’s episode will be “Dependent” (Season 8, Episode 14).
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January 2, 2024 • 114 mins
This week, Kara and Liza recap the episode “Breakwater” (Season 24, Episode 5). Plus, they discuss the Chicago Park District lifeguard sexual abuse scandal and the Paul Hickson rape cases.
SOURCES:
Cook County Sheriff's Office
WBEZ 1
WBEZ 2
WBEZ 3
WBEZ 4
WBEZ 5
WBEZ 6
WBEZ 7
WBEZ 8
Chicago Sun-Times 1
Chicago Sun-Times 2
Chicago Sun-Times 3
Chicago Sun-Times 4
Chicago Sun-Times 5
The Independent
The Herald
Wikipedia - Paul Hickson
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