Fire and Water with Quanita Roberson

After a thirty-plus-year profession in design and visual communication, Kinde began transitioning into wilderness rites of passage guiding in 2008. She started  New Moon Rites of Passage in 2011, which offers wilderness rites of passage, ecopsychological daywalks, community grief tending, one-on-one integral coaching, and various programs. She has led fasts in the tradition of the School of Lost Borders in Northern Utah since 2014 and has guided with Veteran’s Rites. More information can be found at Kinde's website: https://www.newmoonritesofpassage.com/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/newmoonritesofpassage   Additional Links:  https://www.iamrootedexpansion.com/ https://wildernessguidescouncil.org/      

“They will remain shut away behind a hedge of thorns. The journey in search of soul is difficult and even dangerous because it requires that we relinquish the certainty of what we think we know and what we have been taught for generations to believe. It means surrendering the desire to be in control and opening ourselves to a quest, a path of discovery. Many myths and fairy tales emphasize the need for surrender and trust in the strange non-rational guidance offered by animals or shamans on the quest. As the hero follows their guidance, so the hedge opens, the way unfolds. Following the guidance and wisdom of the instinct is the royal road into the realm of soul.” ― Anne Baring, The Dream of the Cosmos: A Quest for the Soul   In our continuing podcast series of inviting elders into deep conversation, Quanita and Anne cover a myriad of topics. However, it all leads to acknowledging the precariousness of the present moment and that a change must come in the human consciousness for us to be able to survive. Anne Baring b. 1931. MA Oxon 1951. PhD (Hons) in Wisdom Studies Ubiquity University 2018. Jungian Analyst, author and co-author of 7 books including, with Jules Cashford, The Myth of the Goddess; Evolution of an Image; with Andrew Harvey, The Mystic Vision and The Divine Feminine; with Dr. Scilla Elworthy, Soul Power: An Agenda for a Conscious Humanity. Also, a book for children, The Birds Who Flew Beyond Time. Her most recent book The Dream of the Cosmos: A Quest for the Soul (2013, updated and reprinted 2020) was awarded the Scientific and Medical Network Book Prize for 2013. The ground of all her work is a deep interest in the spiritual, mythological, shamanic and artistic traditions of different cultures. Her two websites are devoted to a new vision of reality and the issues facing us at this crucial time of choice. www.annebaring.com and www.anne-baring.com   Humanity Rising discussion on YouTube: Humanity Rising with Anne Baring   Urgent Call to All Women: War Stops Now! Women are one half of humanity, yet our voice is not heard in relation to war. We see, every day, how war is destroying human life and the precious life of the planet. This must stop. Most of us do not experience the full horror of what is happening. But those who are ordered to fight and kill, if they survive, are condemned to suffering for the rest of their lives from the atrocities they have witnessed and the injuries they have sustained. The families of those who have been sacrificed live in grief forever. Mothers and grandmothers never recover from the loss of their beloved sons and grandsons, the rape of their daughters and granddaughters. Bitterness, hatred, fear and trauma pass from generation to generation. Trauma does not vanish with time but is held within the collective psyche of humanity. That is why ALL war must stop. This is a key moment in our evolution. The choices we make now will determine our future – and whether there is a future. There is only one power in the world that can eliminate war. That power is Women in service to Love. So we proclaim: We, the Women of the World, command that ALL war stops NOW!

What is the difference between an elder versus someone who is a teacher or a guide with the acknowledgment that an individual can inhabit all of these identities or two or one. Eldering as recognizing learning as learning or studying aspects of the self removed by proximity in order to see the whole more clearly, or at different perspectives. You are the other and the other is you. This is why the presence of an elder can facilitate one opening more deeply to different aspects of oneself. Link to book Jojopah's book, Wisdom Walk to Self-Mastery: https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Walk-Self-Mastery-Ancient-Transforming/dp/1982226587/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1588711966&sr=8-1   My Email: wisdomwalking@gmail.com My Youtube Channel: Wisdom Walk to Self-Mastery My website: www.wisdomwalktoselfmastery.com My Facebook Page: Wisdom Walk Radio My Facebook Group: Wisdom Walk Community (all are welcome to join)

Today’s guest is Eileen Cooper Reed. She is a long-time friend and community mama for Quanita, and deeply respected friend for Tenneson. Eileen is our first guest in 2023, a year in which we are committed to more conversations with our elders. We turn to our elders for their guidance, their humor, their wisdom, and their clarity. Eileen offered a bunch of that today with some emphasis about care in community and family. She shares some of what she has eldered in Quanita that she nows sees Quanita engaging in as well. Eileen imparts some guidance to men to contribute to rebalancing masculine and feminine. She offers her love. Big gratitude. What a treat!

Can we be with the flow of life and just offer what's in our hearts and minds right then and right there?

Integrating rest into your life and the gifts that rest offers including timelessness and play. 

Sometimes, as a point of fact, there are a lot of things going on in our lives and our schedules are full. Contemplations on how to engage these time periods in our lives.

We are hosting a Circle Immersion this December 2022, so today we discuss holding the circle in community. More information about this immersion can be found on our website at Circle Immersion . In addition, in some was this is part 3 of a series. Part one can be seen as Circle Buffet Part 1 Podcast and part 2 can be heard here Circle Buffet Part 2 Podcast 

Conversation with our very own co-host Tenneson Woolf's new book of poetry, Most Mornings. Poems on practice, learning, insight, discoveries and sense-making in our mundane and magical world.

Community inspired transformation and the journey back to self. Discussion on the Fire and Water Leadership Journey and Rite of Passage 16 month experience as the second cohort approaches their final in person retreat for the course.

What is required for one to be deserving? Who stands in judgment? How do our contributions to the wider society play into ideas around what one deserves?

Conversation with Christina Baldwin centering holding space for connection using The Circle Way. For a deeper introduction to the Essence of Circle practice. Please check Quanita and Tenneson's upcoming workshops: Essence of Circle Practice Workshops .

Tenneson and Quanita reflect on their Wisdom Series that focused on our relationship to forgiveness. This journey took two groups through anger, grief, compassion, and grace.

Tenneson and Quanita talk about what is healthy masculine and healthy feminine and how it shows up in men and women.

Quanita Roberson and Amy Howton have written a healing book, The InnerGround Railroad: A 40 Day Journey to Remembering Soul & Spirit. Tenneson asks Quanita several questions about how it feels for her see the first printed copy, how she feels herself grown and changed by writing the book, and how she hopes people encounter the book and its stories.

Tenneson and Quanita talk about trauma and the way that they are experiencing our culture right now. Asking questions about how we are to be trauma informed but not have everything be tseen through the lens of trauma.

Tenneson and I spend some time with one of our elders, David O'Fallon. He shares his thoughts on views on how things are and what is needed in these times. David O’Fallon PhD David’s life themes are education and education reform,  arts and cultural work,  creating community and imagining and creating the future. He has followed these themes through senior positions at the National Endowment for the Arts’s, the John F Kennedy Center and the University of Minnesota. He has led three state agencies in Minnesota as president or CEO; The Perpich Center for Arts Education, MacPhail Center for Music and recently the Minnesota Humanities Center. He has consulted widely, nationally and internationally,  with  small and large organizations on these themes.  This is a moment of fundamental change in this nation and the world. Old narratives and the organizations they formed are failing; some are becoming destructive  as they fall. David is committed to working with organizations to create the new relationships and new narratives needed to connect us all, to courageously imagine and create a thriving, sustainable future. To work with those who are creating the new organisms (rather than organizations) needed to thrive and sustain and create.  He is passionate and practical about working with people and organizations who want to make this transition and to walk into the future. His PhD is in  Theatre and Community and he is proud to be one of the founders of  In the Heart of the Beast Theatre in Minneapolis.   He lives in Minneapolis,MN,USA  Contact him at: davidof43@gmail.com

Tenneson Woolf and Quanita Roberson have a conversation about departures as a part of the initiatory process. They serve how departure has shown up for them and what they have learned.

One of the critical aspects of Fire & Water is staying in the journey through the 16 months. It takes effort and deliberateness to do so, for participants to stay attentive to what unfolds. Quanita and I reflect on a few aspects of staying in -- the spaces in between, critical connections to maintain and to grow, staying in vs just passing time, ritualizing, and the covenant we hold when departure is part of the plan. Enjoy. (22 minutes)

In this episode (30 minutes), Quanita and Tenneson explore the possibility that there be no such thing as independence. Which is, of course, a conversation about connection. We explore scarcity as a pattern in codependence. We explore abundance as a pattern in interdependence. And we wonder about the ways that unresolved wound and trauma foster a coping, shadow side of what so many reference as independence. Enjoy the listen. We hope it adds a little wisdom and soulfulness.