Today our guest is Tory Hess, former member of a small rural group in upstate New York she calls Crazyland.... more

Groups!... I did it again. Jay Van Bavel, NYU Associate Professor of Psychology and Neural Science, Director of the Social... more

Today our guest is actor, musician, and now author Bethany Joy Lenz, whom we will just call Joy. Joy was... more

Today, our guest is a friend who we'll call Anne. We discuss the connection between psychosis and cults, the mental... more

Episode 15: Lola and Meagan interview Jitarth Jadeja, former QAnon believer. He tells the girls about how, despite being Australian,... more

Today our guest is Gareth Gore, journalist and author whose new book Opus is about Opus Dei, an ultra-conservative Catholic... more

Today our guest is a woman whom we’ll call Norah. She tells us about a Facebook group for women in... more

Today is part two with Demetria, survivor of the Oregon new age cult, Twin Ray. This week she shares more... more

Today we're joined by Demetria, survivor of an Oregon new age group called Twin Ray (not to be confused with... more

This week is part two of a fascinating discussion with Joelle Tamraz, author of The Secret Practice: 18 Years on... more

Today is part one of our interview with Joelle Tamraz, author of the book The Secret Practice: 18 Years on... more

Today’s guest is Sara Teitelman, tech consultant and author of a forthcoming book about tech who’s going to talk to... more

In part 2 of our interview with Min Zhou, survivor of the Cultural Revolution and Distinguished Professor of Sociology and... more

Today is part one with Min Zhou, Distinguished Professor of Sociology and Asian American Studies at UCLA, who also grew... more

In part 2 with Tia Levings, author of A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy, Tia she discusses how,... more

Today is part one with Tia Levings, author of A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy. We talk about... more

In part two of our interview with Andrew Dunlop, sister of a perpetrator of Medical Child Abuse (aka Munchausen by... more

Today our guest is Andrea Dunlop, novelist and host of the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me, which is all about... more

Today our guest is J. Wesley Boyd, psychiatrist, professor, and the director of education at the Harvard Medical School Center... more

Today is part two with R. Derek Black, former white supremacist turned anti-racism advocate, and author of The Klansman's Son:... more

Today our guest is R. Derek Black, former poster child for white supremacy (now turned antiracist advocate) and author of... more

In part two with Ian Rafalko, we go deeper into how he left Scientology, what that meant for his family... more

Today is part one Ian Rafalko, a former scientologist from a prominent scientologist family AND son of a prominent YouTube... more

Subject of the new Neil Strauss podcast "To Die For", Aliia Roza shares about her childhood in Russia, her father... more

Lawyer, advocate, podcaster, writer, and the reason you know about Adnan Syed from Serial, Rabia Chaudry, talks about her experience... more

Today we chat with Jessica Kahn, former member of a group we're calling "The Narrow Road." She'll tell us about... more

Today our guest is Madi Stroud. She was featured on the HBO docu series Love Has Won, and is late... more

Dr. Inna Kanevsky, psychologist, professor, and debunker of pseudoscience psychology TikToks, discusses the misinformation videos that got her started on... more

Today is part two with Warren Kohl, former member and religious leader within the 2x2s (Meagan's secretive childhood group that... more

Today's guest is Warren kohl, a fifth generation member and former “worker” (or minister) in the 2x2’s, the group that... more

Psychologist, trauma bond expert, and author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma... more

In part two with Zoe and Lilly, survivors of Midwest Academy, one of the abusive troubled teen programs in the... more

Survivors of the infamous WWASP schools, Zoe & Lillian, share about their experiences being forced to join Ivy Ridge, Midwest... more

In part two with former LuLaRoe seller, Roberta Blevins, they discuss everything about LuLaRoe's founder DeAnne Brady and her family,... more

In part one with former LuLaRoe seller and Life After MLM podcast host, Roberta Blevins, she'll share how she first... more

This week, Lola and Meagan's guests are... Lola and Meagan! They talk about the cult of seeing everything as a... more

In part two of this listener story with Operation Light Force survivor, Katelyn Hlavaty, Lola and Meagan unpack how the... more

In part one of this wild listener story, Katelyn Hlavaty chats with Lola and Meagan about her experience in the... more

Sara Gorman, public health expert, CEO & founder of Critica, and author of Denying to the Grave: Why We Ignore... more

Former Sea Org member and niece of Scientology leader David Miscavige, Jenna Miscavige, talks about leaving "The Ranch" in order... more

Former Scientology Sea Org member and niece of current Scientology leader David Miscavige, Jenna Miscavige, talks about being a third... more

Crystal Hefner, former Playboy Playmate, Hugh Hefner's widow, author of Only Say Good Things: Surviving Playboy and Finding Myself shares... more

In part two of their conversation with Michelle Dowd, Lola & Meagan dig into when Michelle and her family moved... more

Professor, survivor of The Field, and author of Forager: Field Notes for Surviving a Family Cult, Michelle Dowd, discusses growing... more

Two formerly closeted religious men, Thomas and Micah, share how they came out to their families and left their beliefs... more

One is a former Mormon. The other was a child of evangelical missionaries teaching a doctrine called Accelerated Christian Education.... more

Musician and former FLDS member, Marji Mozart, discusses her wedding day as an underage bride who had never been taught... more

Musician and former FLDS member, Marji Mozart, shares about her childhood in Colorado City, living with a rebellious mother within... more

Lola's friend, actor, artist, director, and the next Bob Ross, Barak Hardley talks about his previous life as an evangelical... more

Annie Taylor, Executive Producer of Discovery's The Garden: Commune or Cult, shares about her time living in an off the... more

Journalist Alice Hines and former Twin Flames Universe member Lorraine, both featured in the Amazon docuseries Desperately Seeking Soulmate: Escaping... more

Members of the Duggar family, former cast members of TLC's 19 Kids and Counting, and Counting The Cost authors, Jill... more

Psychologist, educator, and Leaving The Fold author, Marlene Winell, talks with Lola & Meagan about how she came to study... more

Two new listener stories! One from Shelly about her time in the Independent Baptist Movement under pastor Jack Hyles and... more

In part two of her interview with Lola & Meagan, Children of God survivor and military veteran, Daniella Mestyanek Young,... more

In part one of her interview with Lola & Meagan, Children of God survivor and military veteran, Daniella Mestyanek Young,... more

Constitutional attorney, author, and YouTuber Andrew Seidel joins Lola & Meagan to discuss Christian Nationalism, why its based on a... more

UNC Charlotte professor and psychology researcher Dr Richard Tedeschi discusses his pioneering work on post-traumatic growth, how his field is... more

Tech and media expert Simon Fung joins Lola and Meagan to discuss the heartbreaking story behind his new podcast, Dear... more

Dr. Marc Feldman, professor of psychology and expert in Munchausen by Proxy, talks to the girls along with survivor Jordyn... more