Very Amusing With Carlye Wisel - A Theme Park podcast

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"But it makes a lot of sense especially when you think about how traditional healers and shamans have worked, they haven't felt that separation from nature like Western medics do. And so to rely on the knowledge of other species actually makes a lot of sense. It's probably a lot more than we know at the moment." - Jaap de Roode Jaap de Roode is a biology professor at Emory University, and he is the author of an astonishing new book called Doctors by Nature How Ants, Apes, and Other Animals Heal Themselves . I say astonishing because I had no idea about so much of what he explores in his book. It never occurred to me to consider that other species use medicine and have been healing themselves forever. Jaap tells stories of animals across nature, from bumblebees to chimpanzees, how they use plants and natural substances to treat infections, to ward off parasites, to self-medicate. There's so much that we have learned from them, and there's so much more that we still can.…

Very Amusing with Carlye Wisel - A Theme Park Podcast

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Your one-stop shop for the stories, secrets and shenanigans of a popcorn-fueled theme park journalist. Join author, reporter and expert Carlye Wisel for breaking news, unexpected interviews and reported stories about Disney and Universal every week.

It’s an audio theme park party — and you’re invited! Have a vacation question, Epcot comment or Galaxy’s Edge hot take your friends no longer wanna listen to? Call us at 747-CHURROS (747-248-7767) and we might play your call on a future episode!

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Very Amusing with Carlye Wisel - A Theme Park Podcast

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There's...So Much Disney News??! 58:05

2 days ago58:05

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So much Disneyland and Disney World news has *boop* come out and *bloop* disappeared and we gotta TALK about some of this stuff! I counted 32 new things, to be exact?!!???! Because what I lack in accurately counting I make up for in giving you ALL my MANY THOUGHTS on all these rAnDoM bits of Disney Parks news!!! Truly, there has been so many in the last few weeks that even *i* missed a few! Huge merchandise news?! Disney entertainment reveals?! Disney World ride closures and Disneyland ride upgrades!? Entertainment, parades, show offerings, merchandise and yes, DUFFY — all of it will be discussed this week. And maybe discuss isn't even the right word...some of these Disney entertainment and park announcements?! Incredible! Love it! Others?! Well...to say i pop off more than once in this episode is an understatement. Come one, come all, to see the overly passionate woman share her honest thoughts about every change, announcement, news item, store opening, restaurant opening and ride closure coming to Disneyland and Walt Disney World this summer! Relevant Links… Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Get a FREE quote on Epic Universe vacations when you book with Universal Fan Travel! http://universalfantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Walt Disney World With A Baby Or Toddler! 1:14:25

9 days ago1:14:25

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it's finally here!!! (even though, as you'll soon hear, i was 100% convinced this episode already existed as it just languished in my documents waiting to be recorded. oopsies!) This one's got my BEST tips and tricks and hacks for visiting Walt Disney World with infants, babies and toddlers. And I'd know because...I've lived through it all! This one could truly be a novel, but i streamlined all my Disney transportation thoughts and theme park reminders for you in a convenient little must-know tip list. Easy peasy! Enjoy! Relevant Links… New York Magazine story : Get a FREE quote on Epic Universe vacations when you book with Universal Fan Travel! http://universalfantravel.com/amusing Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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My FAVORITE Disney World Restaurants! 50:07

16 days ago50:07

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It's been THREE YEARS since we discussed my favorite Walt Disney World restaurants (!!) And, since I'm gearing up for a super quick trip in April, I wanted to gleefully share my favorite sit-down restaurants across WDW parks and hotels! Get ready for a bunch of incredible Epcot restaurants, a few sleeper hits and a location you will NOT BELIEVE made the list over so many others...! Come hungry (and with a snack honestly...there are so many of the best Disney foods ahead!!) Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Come Along on the Disney Wonder! 1:13:51

22 days ago1:13:51

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I just got back from three nights on the Disney Wonder and have sOoO much to share with you! Could a sailing on Disney's second-oldest ship to a bunch of ports I wasn't excited about *really* be one for the memory books?! From my thoughts on Tiana's Place restaurant and sailing out of San Diego to my major Disney Cruise Line critique that could really change the travel experience, tune in to hear all of it!!! Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Let's go to the Disneyland of SNACKS! 1:05:06

30 days ago1:05:06

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YES YES YES! I wormed my way into Natural Products Expo West — a massive convention of fun, delicious, salty, sweet, innovative SNACKS — and i'm here to tell you all about it!!!! Including the instant ramen (!) banana bread pecans (!) granola bars (!) and flavored water (!) you'll probably be as obsessed with as I now am!! Get links to store location information for ALL of my favorite products from Natural Products Expo West right here! : https://www.carlyewisel.com/new-blog/2025/3/11/natural-products-expo-west Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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My FAVORITE Disney Cruise Line Tips and Tricks! 55:35

5 weeks ago55:35

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This week we're going deep into ALL The Disney Cruise Line tips, tricks and advice that you'll want to know before sailing. Because of course, there's the basics, but only a friend will tell you about the secret Disney Princess character activity's easy-to-miss 30 day booking window and why you don't need to pack seasickness medicine and the unexpected item you will NEED for your final morning and SO MUCH MORE! Why this week!? Well, your girl is going on a Disney Cruise and...kind of goofed on everything (oops?!) So, heed her warnings, do as she says and not as she does, and you will be golden. (Seriously. She...made some mistakes lol) SPEAKING OF -- I forgot to tell you about Future Cruise Onboard Booking Offers in this episode. (See?! The most forgetful trip ever!!!) You'll save 10% by putting a "placeholder" down for future sailings. (And who wouldn't want to do Disney Cruise Line again!?) Relevant Links... Bubo Bakery ! Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Minisode: Non-Disney Stuff!!! (Shopping! New TV Shows! My Taylor Swift bra!) 51:48

6 weeks ago51:48

51:48

We've got a lot of theme park *schtuff* in the next few weeks, so I thought I'd just yap with you all about all the other things I usually talk about on Instagram but never really discuss here! Let me convince you to watch Severance in a Taylor Swift posture bra please!!!! And talk about how jeans have changed?!?! And the "chore television" I can't quit but also somewhat recommend in varying degrees?) See?! So much to discuss! Relevant Links… Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Link to my FORME Bra !: https://forme.therave.co/INHRQJTEZDSB7YK3 Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Trip Recap: Disney World, Riviera Resort and Muppet Prom! 1:15:48

7 weeks ago1:15:48

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Oh we are getting iNTO it this week on Very Amusing with my jaunt down to Orlando for Muppet Prom, the unofficial goodbye party for Muppets Courtyard before it goes away later this year. Come for my exceedingly unhinged thoughts about murphy beds, buttercream frosting and gondola transportation, stay for my first-hand tale of the night Magic Kingdom's many rides went down! Relevant Links… Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Gab Sesh: Disneyland VIP Tour and Universal CityWalk's Massive Makeover 58:39

8 weeks ago58:39

58:39

i went on a secret VIP tour (hehe!), ate a buuuuuunch of Disneyland meals (two visits in 72 hours?! i owe my life to caffeine) and we get *into it* about how Universal CityWalk Hollywood is CHANGING LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE...and what i think could come next! Relevant Links… Get HUGE Disneyland and Disney World discounts -- and a bonus gift card just for booking! -- at Mouse Fan Travel: www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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The Best Disneyland Restaurants for Little Kids! 48:20

9 weeks ago48:20

48:20

Don't call me a mathematician, but i HAVE developed a three-point system for deducing which restaurants are kid-friendly, parental vacation anxiety-friendly and "i love my kid but i also want good food"-friendly. PS: A version of this for Walt Disney World will be coming in the next few weeks! Relevant Links… Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Our 2025 Travel Bucket List! 48:05

10 weeks ago48:05

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We're kicking off a new annual tradition here on Very Amusing that's all about guaranteeing we have fun this year on your travels, both big and small. Whether it's a historic diner, a fun new city or a theme park with the coolest trash cans to ever exist, it's time to plan ahead for future joy and so many shenanigans ◡̈ Relevant Links… Get a FREE quote on Epic Universe vacations when you book with Universal Fan Travel! http://universalfantravel.com/amusing Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Minisode: Las Vegas, Life Updates and California Stuff! 52:58

11 weeks ago52:58

52:58

A little catch-up since we've been on holiday break! Thank you all so much for your understanding as we slowly return to normal following the Los Angeles wildfires, and we look forward to bringing you a full episode next week! <3 Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Gab Sesh: Walt Disney World! 39:09

14 weeks ago39:09

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A festive lil' recap of the Disney World shenanigans I had on both sides of my Disney Treasure trip last month! WE WILL BE BACK JANUARY 22! <3 Relevant Links… Get a FREE quote on Epic Universe vacations when you book with Universal Fan Travel! http://universalfantravel.com/amusing Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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The Best Holiday Experience I've Ever Had (We'll Be Back Next Week!) 4:42

15 weeks ago4:42

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If you're reading this before January 5, do yourself a favor and get to the Warner Bros. Studio Tour Hollywood and check out the Stars Hollow set!!!! it is incredible!!!!!!! look!!!!!!!: https://www.instagram.com/p/DD5LcOIzl1L/ Happy holidays see u next week for a mini-sode!!! Relevant Links… Get a FREE quote on Epic Universe vacations when you book with Universal Fan Travel! http://universalfantravel.com/amusing Reach out to Mouse Fan Travel to take advantage of Disneyland and Disney World discounts! www.mousefantravel.com/amusing Spend more time with Carlye Wisel on... Instagram ! Twitter ! TikTok ! Facebook ! Her Website ! and wear your VERY AMUSING pride on your sleeve in our SHOP ! Don't forget to call us at 747-CHURROS! We'll be waiting by the phone <3 Very Amusing is your go-to theme park and travel podcast for having fun on vacation, whether it's with theme parks, Disney World, Disneyland, Universal, Shrek, roller coasters, amusement parks, rides, attractions or other shenanigans! Our Sponsors: * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Armoire! Save up to $125 on the wardrobe of your dreams at: armoire.style/AMUSING * Quince! Get free shipping and 365 day returns on such good stuff at: quince.com/amusing Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/very-amusing-with-carlye-wisel/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy…

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Come Aboard the Disney Treasure!! 1:12:21

16 weeks ago1:12:21