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We Should Talk About That
We Should Talk About That
Jessica Kidwell

Join host, Jessica Kidwell, as she attempts to unpack the uncomfortable topics that nobody is talking about, but definitely should. With intention... more

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We Should Talk About My 1st Guest Co-host, Gopi Pillai!

Normalizing conversations about our bodies and sexuality can lead to healthier relationships and a sense of empowerment. - Gopi PillaiI... more

04 Dec 2023 · 37 minutes
Strength Training 101: How to Start and Succeed with Alyssa Ages

Have you ever doubted your own physical abilities? Believed that you were simply not cut out for sports or fitness?... more

27 Nov 2023 · 42 minutes
Understanding Autism: A Teenager's Journey Towards Embracing Neurodivergence

Happy Thanksgiving!This week I'm doing a cross promotion with my other podcast, Neuroversity and featuring a very special episode.Join me... more

20 Nov 2023 · 38 minutes
How Teens Are Falling Victim to Financial Sextortion

***This episode briefly discusses suicide.  If you or anyone you know needs support, Help is available 24 hours a day... more

13 Nov 2023 · 42 minutes
Asa Merritt: Breaking the Silence on Suicide and the Making of "Six Sermons"

This episode of We Should Talk About That focuses on an important but difficult topic - suicide prevention and awareness. ***Help... more

06 Nov 2023 · 41 minutes
Exploring Anti-Aging Options with Dr. Carolyn Chang

Would you like to age gracefully and understand the influences that societal judgment and cultural pressures have on beauty and... more

30 Oct 2023 · 50 minutes
Author Ana Homayoun on her Latest Book, "Erasing the Finish Line: The New Blueprint for Success Beyond Grades and College Admission"

Feeling overwhelmed at the prospect of preparing your children for college applications? Join me and my guest, early career development... more

23 Oct 2023 · 37 minutes
How to be more like Abe Lincoln, with Jonathan Shapiro

The key to living a legendary life is to strive to be more like Abe Lincoln.  At least, that is... more

16 Oct 2023 · 44 minutes
A Critical Conversation on Campus Sexual Assault and Recovery

Did you know:1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted while in college or graduate school6% of men will be... more

09 Oct 2023 · 51 minutes
Turning Climate Fear into Action with Anya Kamenetz

Do you ever feel overwhelmed by the subject of climate change?  Jessica does.  With  weather events and natural disasters getting... more

02 Oct 2023 · 41 minutes
Embracing Evolution: The Start of Season Five

Join Jessica Kidwell as she embraces the messy, exciting, and continuous process of growth in the new season of "We... more

25 Sep 2023 · 13 minutes
We Should Talk About What's Next

It's been a couple weeks since WeSTAT said "goodbye" to Jess Buchanan so Jessica Kidwell thought it might be time... more

10 Jul 2023 · 4 minutes
We Should Talk About Change, The Natural Evolution of Endings and Saying Goodbye

When Jess and Jess started this podcast in January 2020, there were a lot of unknowns. They had no idea... more

26 Jun 2023 · 34 minutes
We Should Talk About Father's Day!

Jess and Jess have dedicated multiple episodes to the sacred tradition of Mother's Day, but what about the dads? A... more

19 Jun 2023 · 23 minutes
We Should Talk About The Five Conversations That Will Transform Your Love Life with Sexpert Couple Vanessa and Xander Marin

You heard them first with Glennon and Abby, but NOW, Jess and Jess get a chance to sit down and... more

12 Jun 2023 · 48 minutes
We Should Talk About Our Children's Privacy, the Internet, and Growing up in Public with Author, Devorah Heitner, PhD

From tiktok posts to pin locations, our kids every action is being monitored, recorded and available for the world to... more

05 Jun 2023 · 50 minutes
WeSTAT, Memorial Day, Patriotism and The Fight for America with President Obama's Speech Writer, Cody Keenan

JessK and JessB are taking the day off- but they do have a few reflections to share regarding patriotism, America,... more

29 May 2023 · 37 minutes
We Should Talk About Those Buy Nothing Groups with Freelance Journalist Sonia Weiser

How many of you out there are a member of the "Buy Nothing" groups? JessK has some experiences with the... more

22 May 2023 · 34 minutes
Hey Hun! We Should Talk About Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing with Author and Founder of Sober Mom Squad, Emily Lynn Paulson

We've all been there- you see your Facebook messenger app light up and swipe up only to see a direct... more

15 May 2023 · 41 minutes
We Should Talk About Medical Gaslighting with Author, Patient Advocacy Strategist and Influencer, Ilana Jacqueline

What IS medical gaslighting? Have you ever been forced to play "Doctor Hot Potato"?  You know, when you go to... more

08 May 2023 · 55 minutes
We Should Talk About Hobbies. Do YOU Have Them and Why Are They Important?

Jess K has big wonderings all the time, so it's no surprise that she wanted to go down the rabbit... more

01 May 2023 · 28 minutes
We Should Talk About Late in Life Lesbians with The Period Whisperer, Bria Gadd

Bria Gadd, AKA The Period Whisperer, has a theory. And that theory is based on her own experience of coming... more

24 Apr 2023 · 42 minutes
We Should Talk About Human Design With The Unshakeable Entrepreneur, Nicole Laino

What if life came with a user manual? Turns out, maybe it does- and it's called Human Design! Nicole Laino,... more

17 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 1 minute
We Should Talk About Ways to Navigate Your Spouse's Newfound Sobriety with Spark Discoverer and Life Coach, Dayna Del Val

This episode is for those of you who are on the other side of sobriety- as in you do not... more

10 Apr 2023 · 54 minutes
Is This Normal? A Conversation On Our Hormones, Sex Education and Keeping it Judgment Free with Dr. Jolene Brighten

In the United States, only 18 states provide medically accurate sex education, which leaves far too many of us in... more

03 Apr 2023 · 1 hour, 2 minutes
Gen X Women Navigating Their Aging Bodies Through Social Media with Pro-Aging Advocate, Skylar Liberty Rose

Jess B bumped into Skylar Liberty Rose, a midlife coach for the introverted woman, on Instagram when she ran across... more

27 Mar 2023 · 56 minutes
We Should Talk About Why You Want to Lose Weight with Wellness Embodiment Coach and Nutritional Scientist, Rachel Katz

Middle aged bodies, weight gain, self-loathing, weight loss, numbers on the scale, diets, embodiment, body self-talk, disordered eating....these are all... more

20 Mar 2023 · 48 minutes
We Should Talk About The Pain Gap: How Sexism and Racism in Healthcare Kill Women with Author, Anushay Hossain

When Anushay Hossain became pregnant in the US, she was so relieved. Growing up in Bangladesh in the 1980s, where... more

13 Mar 2023 · 34 minutes
Advancing the Workforce and Women's Equality with Nest Founder, Rebecca van Bergen

 In celebration of Women's History Month, Jess and Jess sit down with founder, Rebecca van Bergen of Nest, which is... more

06 Mar 2023 · 46 minutes
We Should Talk About Women's Obsession with True Crime with Podcaster and Author, Andrea Dunlop, and Why She Reports on Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy

They have talked about it before, and they are bringing it up again. Jess and Jess pellet podcast host of... more

27 Feb 2023 · 45 minutes
We Should Talk About Why More Women Are Having Affairs with "She Wants More" Podcast Host, Jo Piazza

Are more women having extamarital affairs? Or are more women just willing to talk about them? Jo Piazza, acclaimed author... more

20 Feb 2023 · 45 minutes
We Should Talk About Women and Their Money, Their Spending and Taking Charge of Their Investments with the Fiscal Firecrackers

Let's talk about your money! How much do you spend on Amazon?? JessB halfway divulges that Alexa outed her Amazon... more

13 Feb 2023 · 35 minutes
Growing Through Betrayal: A Story of Coming Out, Co-Parenting, and Reclaiming Our True Identity with Podcast Co-Host "Husband In Law" Jessica Frew

Podcast co-host and betrayal coach, Jessica Frew, met her love in college, and they were married within a few months.... more

06 Feb 2023 · 43 minutes
How Humor Disarms and Creates Belonging with Standup Comedian, Yasmin Elhady

This episode is FUN. Jess and Jess talk with Yasmin Elhady about what her life has been like as an... more

30 Jan 2023 · 39 minutes
Deserts to Mountaintops: Eleven Years of Freedom and the Journey to Finding Her Voice with Jess B

January 25th  marks the eleven year anniversary of Jess B's rescue from captivity (she was held hostage by Somali pirates... more

23 Jan 2023 · 30 minutes
We Should Talk About How Women Are Over Leaning In and What is Next for Them in the Workplace with Author, Melanie Ho

As Sheryl Sandberg departs Meta many are re-examining the impact of her bestselling book Leaning In and how it fits... more

16 Jan 2023 · 44 minutes
We Should Talk About Belonging: The Science of Creating Connection and Bridging Divides with Stanford Professor Geoffrey Cohen

What does it really mean to belong? And why is it one of the most challenging topics of discussion and... more

09 Jan 2023 · 48 minutes
In Defense of Meds: You Should Think About Your Mental Health in the New Year

Happy New Year! And in true WeSTAT fashion, Jess and Jess have a REAL REAL REAL conversation about mental health-... more

02 Jan 2023 · 30 minutes
We Should Talk About Wintering, a Vine, Clearing Out The Sh*t, and Surrendering to The Lesson

Jess K shares a pretty profound experience with JessB, and it all started with tearing down a vine off the... more

26 Dec 2022 · 33 minutes
WeSTAT LIVE Salon Talks in Collaboration with Umbrella Dry Drinks (Part II)

We pick up where we left off...crunchy carrots and all.  Our WeSTAT salon guests really dig into what triggers them,... more

19 Dec 2022 · 43 minutes
WeSTAT LIVE Salon Talks in Collaboration with Umbrella Dry Drinks (Part 1)

Another LIVE show with WeSTAT and an awesome group of community members! Jess and Jess organized a holiday party with... more

12 Dec 2022 · 38 minutes
We Should Talk About Palliative Care, Our Obsession with Beginnings, and Why We Should Live Our Lives Before We Die

Dr. Kathy Zhang is a hospice and palliative medicine physician and a podcast host who focuses on having the conversations... more

05 Dec 2022 · 40 minutes
We Should Talk About Frozen Shoulder and Your Middle Aged Hormones as the Culprit

Any other middle aged women out there suffering from unexplained pain in their shoulder? Dr. Sameer Nagda has some answers... more

28 Nov 2022 · 41 minutes
A Recap on Abundance: The Thanksgiving Edition with Jess and Jess

Jess and Jess check in with each other on their season four theme: Abundance. Every interview they have conducted in... more

21 Nov 2022 · 22 minutes
We Should Talk About Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff with Transfeminine Author, Activist and Podcast Host, Margaret Killjoy

Jess and Jess have an interestingly exploratory conversation with fellow podcast host, Margaret Killjoy, centered specifically around cool people who... more

14 Nov 2022 · 44 minutes
**Bonus Episode** An In Depth Interview With WeSTAT Live Audience Contributor and Private Investigator, Sally Tierney

If you listened to Monday's episode, the LIVE podcast recording of WeSTAT, you would have heard one of our first... more

11 Nov 2022 · 43 minutes
I Want MORE Than a Second Act! Another LIVE WeSTAT Podcast Recording on Location at Nepenthe Art Gallery

Jess and Jess are coming to you live from Nepenthe Art Gallery located in Ft. Hunt/Alexandria, VA. The theme of this audience involved... more

07 Nov 2022 · 1 hour,
CODEPENDENT NO MORE: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself with Bestselling Author and Self-Help Pioneer, Melody Beattie

You might have seen her on an interview last week with Glennon Doyle- but here they are- and The Two... more

31 Oct 2022 · 44 minutes
Using Cake for Political Protest, with Baking By Feel Author and Sweet Feminist Becca Rae-Tucker

If you are one to lose yourself on Instagram or TikTok watching food accounts, most likely you have run across... more

24 Oct 2022 · 39 minutes
Trailer From A Slight Change of Plans: A First Responder's Call for Help

We’re sharing a special episode from another podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, from Pushkin Industries. In this preview first... more

18 Oct 2022 · 13 minutes
We Should Talk About Gender Equity, the Economic Lens, and How It's Everyone's Issue with Gender Economist Katica Roy

Since 1970, women have added 2 TRILLION dollars to the United States economy through their increased labor force participation, and... more

17 Oct 2022 · 37 minutes
Acceptance: An Indictment of the American Dream with Harvard Grad and Author, Emi Nietfeld

As a homeless teenager writing college essays in her rusty Toyota Corolla, Emi Nietfeld was convinced that the Ivy League... more

10 Oct 2022 · 36 minutes
Grace, President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America with Obama's Speech Writer, Cody Keenan

Cody Keenan rose from a campaign intern in his hometown to become the chief speechwriter at the White House and... more

03 Oct 2022 · 33 minutes
Soft Censorship and Book Bans with The 19th* Education Reporter, Nadra Nittle

Even though the First Amendment actually prohibits view-based restrictions on access, school districts across the country are banning books that... more

26 Sep 2022 · 41 minutes
It's Not Me, It's You: Break the Blame Cycle. Relationship Better with Author and Podcast Host, Vanessa Bennett

This is the stuff. Jess and Jess get the tremendous opportunity to chat with Vanessa Bennett, host of Cheaper Than... more

19 Sep 2022 · 50 minutes
We Should Talk About ABUNDANCE... A New Season, A New Theme, A State of Open Trust.

Jess and Jess kick off SEASON 4 with a characteristically vulnerable, and at times, uncomfortable, reflection on the last three... more

12 Sep 2022 · 40 minutes
Season 4 of We Should Talk About That Sneak Peak!

Abundance. More than enough.Plenty. Jess and Jess are ready to tackle that concept and will be bringing you all sorts of ideas,... more

05 Sep 2022 · 1 minute
The Gift of Grief and Our Journey of Triumph with Grief Therapist, Edy Nathan

Jess and Jess love to talk about grief. So this week's conversation with licensed grief therapist, Edy Nathan, around her... more

22 Aug 2022 · 34 minutes
Disabling Ableism: The Modern Pathway to Inclusion with Disability Advocate, Alycia Anderson

Ableism. It's everywhere- in the media, in our schools, in the line at the supermarket. But how many of us... more

15 Aug 2022 · 47 minutes
How to Get Rid of Toxic Relationships with Podcast Host of "It's Not Normal- It's Toxic" Dr. Heidi Brocke

What defines a toxic relationship? Well, it's a spectrum- and it isn't JUST about intimate relationships- it can by any... more

08 Aug 2022 · 26 minutes
Not Done Yet: A Conversation on Gendered Ageism with Bestselling Author, Podcast Host and Executive Coach, Bonnie Marcus

What does it mean to be "too old?" Bonnie Marcus has researched this question considerably and  maintains that we, as... more

01 Aug 2022 · 37 minutes
We Should Talk About The Stolen Year: How Covid Changed Children's Lives, and Where We Go Now with NPR Reporter, Anya Kamenetz

It is undisputed that COVID-19 has wreaked havoc on all of us, worldwide. Job juggling, The Great Resignation, social justice,... more

25 Jul 2022 · 46 minutes
We Should Talk About Your Thyroid Health with The Thyroid-Fixer, Dr. Amie Hornaman

Dr. Amie Hornaman, a.k.a The Thyroid-Fixer, is a woman on a mission to optimizethyroid patients around the world and give... more

18 Jul 2022 · 55 minutes
The Opportunity in Loneliness with Wellness Expert and Loneliness Researcher, Olivia Ash

As we move out of some of the loneliest years in recent history as a result of isolating, covid and... more

11 Jul 2022 · 30 minutes
The Mom Friend Guide to Everyday Safety and Security with TikTok Sensation, Cathy Pedrayes

Safety expert and former scientist, Cathy Pedrayes is best known to her 2.3 million TikTok followers as the “mom friend.”... more

04 Jul 2022 · 46 minutes
The Siren House: Women Building Intentional Community through Co-Housing and Questioning Societal Norms

Herrin Hopper and Holly Harper met in 2015 when their kids were in the same preschool program on Capitol Hill... more

27 Jun 2022 · 45 minutes
Roe v. Wade: You Better Believe We Are Going to Talk About It. A Friday Edition.

We, along with millions of women in America, are feeling the depths of despair, panic and grief. We are heartbroken.... more

24 Jun 2022 · 25 minutes
Who is Wellness For? We Should Talk About That With Multidisciplinary Artist and Author, Fariha Roisin.

Growing up a Queer Bangladeshi Muslim in Australia, Róisín struggled to fit in. In attempts to assimilate, Róisín distanced herself... more

20 Jun 2022 · 28 minutes
We Should Talk About Your Skin and Aging...LIVE with Medical Esthetician, Jennifer Daniels

Jess and Jess realized that one of the most popular points of conversation with their friends (40 and over!) has... more

13 Jun 2022 · 1 hour, 3 minutes
Life on the Road, Gay Pride and Empowering Women Through Adventure Boudoir with Big Boudie Bus Founder and Photographer Sarah Marcella

Who else thinks living in a 30 foot converted school bus and traveling around the country taking empowering photos of... more

06 Jun 2022 · 54 minutes
Guns, School Shootings, and Our Aching Hearts with Public School Teacher and Sensible Gun Laws Advocate, Kellie Healy

Jess and Jess have felt lost, forlorn, broken-hearted and out of words this last week. Shocked and encompassed soul crushing... more

30 May 2022 · 1 hour, 1 minute
Getting Past You and Me So We Can Get to US with Family Therapist and Founder of Relational Life Institute, Terry Real

There is no redeeming value in harshness- nothing good can come from this, that loving firmness can't do better. This... more

23 May 2022 · 48 minutes
We Should Talk About Changing the Game in Youth Sports with John O' Sullivan

John O' Sullivan is the founder of Changing the Game Project (https://changingthegameproject.com/) an organization that was created to ensure that... more

16 May 2022 · 52 minutes
We Should Talk About Mothering as Essential Labor and the Need for Social Change with Author Angela Garbes

Angela Garbes is the author of the now-classic Like a Mother and her new book, which grew out of her... more

09 May 2022 · 52 minutes
A Conversation on Fertility, Creating Art and Recycling Pain with Bestselling Author and Podcast Host, Elizabeth Day

Marisa and Jake are a perfect couple. And Kate, their new lodger, is the perfect roommate—and not just because her... more

02 May 2022 · 49 minutes
We Should Talk About The Science of Stuck and How to Get Unstuck with Trauma Therapist and Author, Britt Frank

Britt Frank was a drug addict (she's smoked meth out of lightbulbs!), love addict, codependent, borderline personality disordered, clinically depressed,... more

25 Apr 2022 · 52 minutes
A Conversation on Gun Violence with "Last Day" Podcast Host, Stephanie Wittels Wachs

The Two Jesses, prior to this conversation with Stephanie Wittels Wachs, would have both told you guns are bad. Full... more

18 Apr 2022 · 50 minutes
We Should Talk About WHY there are NO Girls on the Internet with Podcaster Bridget Todd

Award winning podcaster, Bridget Todd, sits down with The Two Jess(es) to talk about how marginalized people show up online,... more

11 Apr 2022 · 45 minutes
Now What? The Real Story Behind Rebuilding, When Life Has Fallen Apart, with Podcasters Jen Hoffmeister and Tesha Gibbon

Jess and Jess sit down for a REAL and authentic conversation with the Canadian version of...THEM! Jen Hoffmeister and Tesha... more

04 Apr 2022 · 44 minutes
Finding Your Unicorn Space and Why You Should Give Yourself Consistent Permission to be Unavailable with NYT Bestselling Author of "Fair Play": Eve Rodsky

According to studies conducted throughout the course of the pandemic, mothers were able to complete ONE hour of work during... more

28 Mar 2022 · 49 minutes
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We Should Talk About Mothering as Essential Labor and the Need for Social Change with Author Angela Garbes
We Should Talk About That

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Angela Garbes is the author of the now-classic Like a Mother and her new book, which grew out of her New York... more