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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried
Pushkin Industries

From Michael Lewis and Against The Rules comes a special series – Judging Sam: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried. Judging Sam will... more

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Judging Sam: The Sentencing

Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced to 25 years in prison after being convicted of fraud and conspiracy. Michael Lewis and Lidia... more

29 Mar 2024 · 41 minutes
Judging Sam: Judging the FTX Bankruptcy

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27 Mar 2024 · 43 minutes
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Judging Sam: Millennial Frauds

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17 Nov 2023 · 30 minutes
Judging Sam: The Aftermath

It's all over. Sam Bankman-Fried was found guilty on all seven counts. But what now? Michael Lewis, Lidia Jean Kott,... more

09 Nov 2023 · 34 minutes
Judging Sam: Guilty on all counts

The jury, after about 4 and a half hours of deliberation, has delivered its verdict – guilty on all seven... more

03 Nov 2023 · 8 minutes
Judging Sam: The jury's job

CORRECTION: In an earlier version of this episode, our guest incorrectly stated that in the case of a hung jury,... more

02 Nov 2023 · 20 minutes
Judging Sam: The Hail Mary That Wasn’t

We're finally in the home stretch. Today the prosecution finished their cross examination of Sam Bankman-Fried, the defense followed up... more

01 Nov 2023 · 24 minutes
Judging Sam: Sam Bankman-Fried Faces Cross-Examination

Sam Bankman-Fried finishes direct and faces withering cross-examination by the government’s chief prosecutor, Danielle Sassoon. Michael Lewis and Lidia Jean... more

31 Oct 2023 · 13 minutes
Judging Sam: Sam Bankman-Fried Takes The Stand

The day is finally upon us: Sam Bankman-Fried takes the stand. Michael Lewis and Lidia Jean meet up after a... more

28 Oct 2023 · 21 minutes
Judging Sam: Michael Lewis comes to court

Michael Lewis finishes his book tour and joins Lidia Jean Kott in court. His timing, as usual, is impeccable. The... more

27 Oct 2023 · 17 minutes
Judging Sam: After The Prosecution Rests

After a few days off, the trial resumes tomorrow, October 26. The prosecution has said they will likely be ready... more

25 Oct 2023 · 28 minutes
Judging Sam: An FTX Victim Speaks Out

Voices of the victims of Sam Bankman-Fried’s alleged crimes have been few and far between during the prosecution’s presentation of... more

24 Oct 2023 · 20 minutes
Judging Sam: Week 3 is in the books

Another week come and gone, and like everything SBF, it wasn’t without a healthy dose of drama. Lidia Jean Kott... more

20 Oct 2023 · 18 minutes
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19 Oct 2023 · 8 minutes
Judging Sam: Michael Lewis Talks Money with Matt Levine

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18 Oct 2023 · 27 minutes
Judging Sam: Nishad Singh Takes the Stand

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17 Oct 2023 · 8 minutes
Judging Sam: Week 2 Catch-up with Michael Lewis

Week 2 of Sam Bankman-Fried’s trial is in the books. The prosecution has called witnesses, including star witness Caroline Ellison,... more

16 Oct 2023 · 25 minutes
Judging Sam: Ellison Testimony Wraps Up

Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, spent 3 days on the stand this week. Ellison... more

13 Oct 2023 · 18 minutes
Judging Sam: Caroline Ellison Takes The Stand

Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, takes the stand and has a lot to say.... more

11 Oct 2023 · 16 minutes
Judging Sam: Catching up with Michael Lewis

Week 1 of Sam Bankman-Fried’s trial is in the books. The jury is seated, opening statements have been given, and... more

09 Oct 2023 · 21 minutes
Judging Sam: Opening Statements

SBF’s trial has been on for three days, and a lot has happened: jury selection, opening statements, and the first... more

06 Oct 2023 · 23 minutes
Judging Sam: Jury Selection

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04 Oct 2023 · 31 minutes
Judging Sam: The Case Against SBF

Sam Bankman-Fried's trial starts today in the formidable Southern District of New York, with Judge Lewis A. Kaplan presiding. If... more

03 Oct 2023 · 30 minutes
Judging Sam: Going Infinite – Jacob Weisberg interviews Michael Lewis

For the past year and a half, journalist Michael Lewis has been following crypto entrepreneur and former CEO of FTX... more

02 Oct 2023 · 33 minutes
Judging Sam: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried

Just a year ago, Sam Bankman-Fried was heralded as a wunderkind, a genius, a crypto innovator, a major philanthropist and... more

25 Sep 2023 · 1 minute
On Background: Preparing for Sam Bankman-Fried's Trial

The former CEO of now-bankrupt crypto firm FTX, Sam Bankman-Fried has been charged with fraud and conspiracy. His trial is... more

12 Sep 2023 · 30 minutes
The Sudden Celebrity of Sir John Knight from Revisionist History

In the battles over gun rights, a shadowy English nobleman from the 17th century has unexpectedly taken center stage. Who... more

31 Aug 2023 · 48 minutes
On Background: The Political Spender America Deserves

During the 2022 election cycle, crypto mogul Sam Bankman-Fried gave as much as $40 million in political donations. That whopping... more

15 Aug 2023 · 29 minutes
On Background: Who Buys Distressed Assets?

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11 Jul 2023 · 35 minutes
Introducing Lost Hills: The Dark Prince

Sharing a preview of Lost Hills Season 3: The Dark Prince. Host Dana Goodyear takes a deep dive into the... more

29 Jun 2023 · 11 minutes
On Background: Effective Altruism Still Has Friends

One-time crypto-currency king Sam Bankman-Fried was a big proponent of a philosophical movement known as “effective altruism,” or EA. Advocates... more

13 Jun 2023 · 34 minutes
On Background: Crypto Skeptic Proven Right

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16 May 2023 · 31 minutes
On Background: A History of Bankruptcy in the US

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11 Apr 2023 · 33 minutes
On Background: White-Collar Crime and Punishment

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14 Mar 2023 · 39 minutes
On Background: Bad Actors on the Blockchain

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14 Feb 2023 · 36 minutes
On Background from Against the Rules

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31 Jan 2023 · 2 minutes
Episode 7: The Person Who Knows

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24 May 2022 · 45 minutes
Episode 6: The Overconfidence Game

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17 May 2022 · 33 minutes
Episode 5: The Sanchez Problem

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03 May 2022 · 40 minutes
Episode 4: Respect the Polygon

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19 Apr 2022 · 33 minutes
Episode 3: Field of Ignorance

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12 Apr 2022 · 34 minutes
Episode 2: The Art of the Untold Story

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05 Apr 2022 · 38 minutes
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05 Apr 2022 · 42 minutes
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22 Mar 2022 · 2 minutes
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08 Mar 2022 · 28 minutes
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01 Mar 2022 · 26 minutes
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22 Feb 2022 · 28 minutes
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15 Feb 2022 · 29 minutes
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08 Feb 2022 · 42 minutes
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26 Jan 2022 · 3 minutes
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16 Jun 2021 · 47 minutes
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04 May 2021 · 34 minutes
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16 Jun 2020 · 44 minutes
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09 Jun 2020 · 34 minutes
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02 Jun 2020 · 36 minutes
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27 May 2020 · 42 minutes
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19 May 2020 · 49 minutes
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12 May 2020 · 44 minutes
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07 May 2020 · 35 minutes
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05 May 2020 · 44 minutes
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21 Apr 2020 · 2 minutes
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21 May 2019 · 54 minutes
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14 May 2019 · 53 minutes
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07 May 2019 · 39 minutes
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried
The Coach in Your Head
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried

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Just about anyone today can call themselves a coach. Michael traces this trend back to its source and finds out that the... more